I'm aware that I sent something via email inadvertently to the NANOG list.
Sorry about that.  If I could remove it I would.

Sorry about that

Mike


On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 4:58 PM Peter Potvin <
peter.pot...@accuristechnologies.ca> wrote:

> Mike,
>
> Please verify you are emailing the correct person. I have no idea how this
> thread relates to a domain name transfer but I highly recommend verifying
> the recipient of your emails to make sure they go to the right place.
>
> Regards,
> Peter
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 4:57 PM Mike Tindor <mtin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> The ... AUTH code did NOT work
>>
>> stbernadettewv.org Canceled - Invalid EPP/authorization key - Please
>> contact current registrar to obtain correct key
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 4:51 PM Mike Tindor <mtin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Assuming the code is correct and that you will be getting the email,l
>>> you should get any email any time.
>>>
>>> stbernadettewv.org Domain awaiting transfer initiation
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 4:46 PM Tom Beecher <beec...@beecher.cc> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I don't think there is any satisfactory argument that can be made for
>>>>> wanting to avoid route server routing. For the content/cloud folk, I think
>>>>> avoiding it provides a mechanism via which they can screen for the utility
>>>>> of having to keep an exchange point node upgraded and optimized for 
>>>>> service.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Plenty of eyeball networks will announce prefixes differently via a
>>>> bilateral session vs a route server session vs DFZ, then come yelling
>>>> because traffic isn't going the way they expected it to. There can be times
>>>> that the administrative overhead of dealing with those folks far outweighs
>>>> any financial or performance benefits.
>>>>
>>>> Route servers are generally useful, but can be a royal pain in the ass
>>>> too, depending on how they're used.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 3:35 PM Mark Tinka <mark@tinka.africa> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/7/24 21:42, Randy Bush wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> i used to resist.  my instinct is that the data plane and the control
>>>>> plane should be congruent or you can have hard to debug issues[0].
>>>>> but, as i have gotten older and lazier, and as you say, route servers
>>>>> have gotten quite reliable, i have come over to the route server side.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't think there is any satisfactory argument that can be made for
>>>>> wanting to avoid route server routing. For the content/cloud folk, I think
>>>>> avoiding it provides a mechanism via which they can screen for the utility
>>>>> of having to keep an exchange point node upgraded and optimized for 
>>>>> service.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark.
>>>>>
>>>>

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