http://wnagele.com/2007/06/19/spamhouseorg-vs-nicat/
Another problem with spamhaus, they want to earn money. The Pirates Party in germany is a nonprofit. Nevertheless our mailers use a fixed addresses and when you query spamhaus long enough from a fixed address you are put on a blacklist and fed wrong information. Time and again all mails bounced. Every new mail admin went through this cycle :) Kind regards Peter Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: > On Jun 16, 2009, at 2:00 PM, Quinn Mahoney wrote: > >> Is there a competing droplist, that can be compared against Spamhaus's >> droplist? That seems like an extraordinary claim, so I'm not satisfied >> with the evidence provided. Is this not the best droplist? > > Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. Mr. Anderson gives > little proof at all, and not even close to extraordinary proof, IMHO. > > My personal experience is that Spamhaus is highly respectable > organization. They are by no means perfect, but I trust their judgement > to a high degree, FWIW. The Spamhaus DNSRBLs are, I believe, the most > used on the Internet. This suggests the rest of the Internet has a > different opinion than Mr. Anderson. > > I have not used MAPS, so I cannot comment on its utility. but I have > never heard a single credible claim Mr. Vixie is a spammer, more or less > a verifiable one. (Yes, that includes the claim below.) From my > personal experience, Mr. Vixie is very much the opposite of a spammer. > Mr. Vixie gave the Keynote speech at the NANOG conference yesterday, so > I would submit the community at large disagrees with Mr. Anderson's > assessment. > > SORBS is probably not as highly regarded as Spamhaus, but as with Vixie, > not one credible claim has ever been made that Michelle is a spammer, > including the below. Again, the opposite is reality, and probably to > the same extent as Vixie. (I.e. Some people think they go too far in > fighting spam, not in sending it.) > > Finally, John Levine is not a spammer either. I'm kinda tired of giving > proof, so take my word for it, or not, as you please. > > > Anyway, just some personal opinions from someone who has had personal > interaction with the people involved and used two of the three products > mentioned. Not sure this was operational, but I felt the need to step > up and defend people after you forwarded the outrageous claims below to > the list. (No one on the list saw Mr. Anderson's claims other than you, > because you were personally CC'ed.) > > End of day, your network, your choice. I think you know mine. > -- Peter and Karin Dambier Cesidian Root - Radice Cesidiana Rimbacher Strasse 16 D-69509 Moerlenbach-Bonsweiher +49(6209)795-816 (Telekom) +49(6252)750-308 (VoIP: sipgate.de) mail: pe...@peter-dambier.de http://www.peter-dambier.de/ http://iason.site.voila.fr/ https://sourceforge.net/projects/iason/ ULA= fd80:4ce1:c66a::/48
