Hi Seth,

LOAs can't be considered more trustworthy than IRR objects. The RIRs operate 
IRRdb services as part of the services they offer which network operators 
should be using instead of the free and paid non-authoritative IRRdb operators.

If you don’t mind, could you please reach out to me off-list with who the VPS 
hosting provider is that is only accepting LOAs? I’d like to reach out to them 
to discuss their decision.

I’m doing a talk at APRICOT 2024 on using ROAs to replace LOAs. In my view 
there's no reason why network operators cannot use ROAs instead to validate the 
routes received from their peers, be they upstream or downstream.

Regards,
Christopher Hawker


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On 27 Feb 2024, at 1:57 am, Seth Mattinen via NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> wrote:

Why do companies still insist on, or deploy new systems that rely on paper LOA 
for IP and ASN resources? How can this be considered more trustworthy than RIR 
based IRR records?

And I'm not even talking about old companies, I have a situation right now 
where a VPS provider I'm using will no longer use IRR and only accepts new 
paper LOAs. In the year 2024. I don't understand how anyone can go backwards 
like that.

~Seth

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