Noe… You are conflating two completely different cases, sir. CI submitted legitimate applications and their addresses were issued prior to Ernest’s activities.
You’re mixing Lu Heng up with Elad Cohen. Owen > On Sep 15, 2023, at 16:32, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > https://www.devdiscourse.com/article/international/1813989-the-strange-case-of-africas-stolen-ip-addresses > > https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=Ernest+Byaruhanga+afrinic > > On Fri, Sep 15, 2023 at 4:30 PM Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com > <mailto:eric.kuh...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> > AFRINIC legitimately issued those (closer to 6M) IP addresses to Cloud >> > Innovation based on justifications submitted. AFRINIC then attempted, >> > using claims that usage out of region is not permitted by the bylaws >> (It is not prohibited by the bylaws, feel free to read them yourself), to >> reclaim those addresses. >> >> This is not what happened. AFRINIC issued those IP addresses to Cloud >> Innovations based on fundamental misrepresentations by the applicant and >> internal fraudulent activity conducted by a single employee within AFRINIC. >> >> >> >> On Fri, Sep 15, 2023 at 4:17 PM Delong.com <o...@delong.com >> <mailto:o...@delong.com>> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> On Sep 15, 2023, at 15:05, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com >>>> <mailto:eric.kuh...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> A much better explanation of the situation can be found at: >>>> >>>> https://www.theregister.com/2023/07/03/nrs_afrinic_review/ >>>> >>>> I also recommend that everyone who is not yet familiar with the issue >>>> google Lu Heng and Cloud Innovations, the Hong Kong based corporate entity >>>> in question which caused this. >>> >>> Fair suggestion, but I wouldn’t say it’s fair to say Lu Heng or CI caused >>> this. I’d say that AFRINIC’s >>> leadership at the time had an at least equal role in creating the problems >>> and in failing to address >>> Them in a timely manner. >>> >>> CI didn’t sue AFRINIC for nothing. AFRINIC, in violation of the actual text >>> of their bylaws attempted >>> to revoke CI space and created major disruptions to a number of networks in >>> the process. Had CI >>> not received the injunctions they got from the courts, likely the >>> disruption would have been much >>> worse and caused some pretty wide-spread outages. >>> >>>> >>>> https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=lu+heng+cloud+innovation >>>> >>>> The short version of this is that a HK based corporate entity claims it is >>>> the legitimate "owner" of 7 million AFRINIC IPs. >>> >>> AFRINIC legitimately issued those (closer to 6M) IP addresses to Cloud >>> Innovation based on justifications submitted. AFRINIC then attempted, using >>> claims that usage out of region is not permitted by the bylaws >>> (It is not prohibited by the bylaws, feel free to read them yourself), to >>> reclaim those addresses. >>> >>> AFRINIC whois and the courts have confirmed that Cloud Innovation is the >>> rightful registrant of those >>> addresses at the time and as of now. Until a court rules otherwise (which >>> is very unlikely at this point), >>> they don’t “own” the addresses, but they do “own” the rights to those >>> registrations in the AFRINIC >>> database. >>> >>> (Nobody “owns” any integers… Everyone remains equally free to use the >>> number 5 as much as they want.) >>> >>> Owen >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Sep 14, 2023 at 6:09 AM Bryan Fields <br...@bryanfields.net >>>> <mailto:br...@bryanfields.net>> wrote: >>>>> On 9/13/23 9:27 PM, Bryan Fields wrote: >>>>> > I think this qualifies as potentially operational. >>>>> > >>>>> > Afrinic placed in receivership, board elections to be held in six >>>>> > months: >>>>> > https://archive.ph/jOFE4 >>>>> >>>>> Looks like archive.ph <http://archive.ph/> is having problems. This is >>>>> the original article. >>>>> >>>>> > https://www.capacitymedia.com/article/2c6pnx4ymt7sd5c493wg0/news/exclusive-afrinic-placed-in-receivership-board-elections-to-be-held-in-six-months >>>>> -- >>>>> Bryan Fields >>>>> >>>>> 727-409-1194 - Voice >>>>> http://bryanfields.net <http://bryanfields.net/> >>>
