On Tue, 26 Jul 2022 at 23:15, Jeff Tantsura <jefftant.i...@gmail.com> wrote:

> In general, if we look at the whole spectrum, on one side there’re massively 
> parallelized “many core” RTC ASICs, such as Trio, Lightspeed, and similar (as 
> the last gasp of Redback/Ericsson venture - we have built 1400 HW threads 
> ASIC (Spider).
> On another side of the spectrum - fixed pipeline ASICs, from BCM Tomahawk at 
> its extreme (max speed/radix - min features) moving with BCM Trident, 
> Innovium, Barefoot(quite different animal wrt programmability), etc - usually 
> shallow on chip buffer only (100-200M).
>
> In between we have got so called programmable pipeline silicon, BCM DNX and 
> Juniper Express are in this category, usually a combo of OCB + off chip 
> memory (most often HBM), (2-6G), usually have line-rate/high scale 
> security/overlay encap/decap capabilities. Usually have highly optimized RTC 
> blocks within a pipeline (RTC within macro). The way and speed to access DBs, 
> memories is evolving with each generation, number/speed of non networking 
> cores(usually ARM)  keeps growing - OAM, INT, local optimizations are primary 
> users of it.

What do we call Nokia FP? Where you have a pipeline of identical cores
doing different things, and the packet has to hit each core in line in
order? How do we contrast this to NPU where a given packet hits
exactly one core?

I think ASIC, NPU, pipeline, RTC are all quite ambiguous. When we say
pipeline, usually people assume a purpose build unique HW blocks
packet travels through (like DNX, Express) and not fully flexible
identical cores pipeline like FP.

So I guess I would consider 'true pipeline', pipeline of unique HW
blocks and 'true NPU' where a given packet hits exactly 1 core. And
anything else as more or less hybrid.

I expect once you get to the details of implementation all of these
generalisations use communicative power.

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