Forgive me if I have little or no sympathy for them. Owen
> On May 29, 2022, at 14:10, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > This is going to be very painful and difficult for a number of DOCSIS3 > operators, including some of the largest ISPs in the USA with multi-millions > of subscribers with tons of legacy coax plant that have no intention of ever > changing the RF channel setup and downstream/upstream asymmetric bandwidth > allocation to provide more than 15-20Mbps upstream per home. > > > > > > On Thu, 26 May 2022 at 16:59, Jeff Shultz <jeffshu...@sctcweb.com > <mailto:jeffshu...@sctcweb.com>> wrote: > I think we have a winner here - we don't necessarily need 1G down, but we do > need to get the upload speeds up to symmetrical 50/50, 100/100 etc... there > are enough people putting in HD security cameras and the like that upstream > speeds are beginning to be an issue. > > On Tue, May 24, 2022 at 4:37 AM David Bass <davidbass...@gmail.com > <mailto:davidbass...@gmail.com>> wrote: > The real problem most users experience isn’t that they have a gig, or even > 100Mb of available download bandwidth…it’s that they infrequently are able to > use that full bandwidth due to massive over subscription . > > The other issue is the minimal upload speed. It’s fairly easy to consume the > 10Mb that you’re typically getting as a residential customer. Even “business > class” broadband service has a pretty poor upload bandwidth limit. > > We are a pretty high usage family, and 100/10 has been adequate, but there’s > been times when we are pegged at the 10 Mb upload limit, and we start to see > issues. > > I’d say 25/5 is a minimum for a single person. > > Would 1 gig be nice…yeah as long as the upload speed is dramatically > increased as part of that. We would rarely use it, but that would likely be > sufficient for a long time. I wouldn’t pay for the extra at this point > though. > > On Mon, May 23, 2022 at 8:20 PM Sean Donelan <s...@donelan.com > <mailto:s...@donelan.com>> wrote: > > Remember, this rulemaking is for 1.1 million locations with the "worst" > return on investment. The end of the tail of the long tail. Rural and > tribal locations which aren't profitable to provide higher speed > broadband. > > These locations have very low customer density, and difficult to serve. > > After the Sandwich Isles Communications scandal, gold-plated proposals > will be viewed with skepticism. While a proposal may have a lower total > cost of ownership over decades, the business case is the cheapest for > the first 10 years of subsidies. [massive over-simplification] > > Historically, these projects have lack of timely completion (abandoned, > incomplete), and bad (overly optimistic?) budgeting. > > > -- > Jeff Shultz > > > Like us on Social Media for News, Promotions, and other information!! > > <https://www.facebook.com/SCTCWEB/> > <https://www.instagram.com/sctc_sctc/> > <https://www.yelp.com/biz/sctc-stayton-3> > <https://www.youtube.com/c/sctcvideos> > > > > > > > > *** This message contains confidential information and is intended only for > the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not > disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender > immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete > this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be > secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, > destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender > therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the > contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. ***