Marty knows a thing or two about the history and current state of affairs in this world.... :)
Pretty much all of the major LECs have set the goal of full copper retirement. But that is a long way away. On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 8:58 PM Shane Ronan <[email protected]> wrote: > I think you'd be very surprised if you walked into the central offices of > MANY of the large LECs. > > The majority of the wire frames are gone, replaced with fiber, even where > the service is delivered as copper to the end user, it's usually served > from something fiber fed much closer to the end user. > > I can tell you that one MAJOR LEC has a major push going on to retire ALL > copper. > > Shane > > On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 6:54 PM Martin Hannigan <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> >> >> Its not ancient. While cooper based products are slowly fading they still >> matter. Im using 66 blocks to accommodate gauge/voltage for dial tone in >> all facilities. Lots of OOB still happens via copper dial tone or DSL. >> Show me one LEC that has torn down their wire frame? >> >> We bought new. Im seeing this product on the intertubes new at $18 per >> block. We didn’t mount distribution from LEC in rack. Instead we placed the >> standard 5/8’s plywood backboard and mounted there. We transition to a 110 >> block in a rack over ladder tray via ABAM cable to deliver to the back of a >> 110 block and patch from front. Not perfect, but cost effective, easy to >> manage and simple. It works. >> >> Warm regards, >> >> -M< >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 16:14 Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I know I'm discussing what some consider ancient technology. I counter >>> that it meets or exceeds the needs of many, many people. >>> >>> Currently, we use 100-pr Telect-style termination blocks. They don't >>> offer much in terms of ease of use for testing and don't organize well on a >>> 19" or 23" rack. >>> >>> I was recommended to look at Krone blocks. They look just great. Easy to >>> break into for testing with their "look both ways" plug as well as their >>> preterminated blocks looked much easier to rack-mount. >>> >>> Well, Krone was bought by ADC. ADC was bought by Tyco Electronics. TE >>> was bought by Commscope. Commscope discontinued everything I found >>> interesting with no replacements. >>> >>> >>> Some of the stuff is on eBay (even NIB), some not. >>> >>> Any recommendations for places to get old telco blocks, testers, mounts, >>> etc.? >>> >>> Any recommendations for alternatives that are easier to source? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> Midwest-IX >>> http://www.midwest-ix.com >>> >>
