Dear NANOG-ers,
Hope this email finds you in good health!

Please see my comments below, inline...

Le vendredi 11 mars 2022, Brandon Price <pri...@sherwoodoregon.gov> a
écrit :

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+priceb=sherwoodoregon....@nanog.org> On Behalf
> Of Bill Woodcock
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 11:37 AM
> To: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Re: The role of Internet governance in sanctions
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> >Perhaps not.  My goal is to minimize Internet disconnection.  Maybe
> that’s not your goal.  I was trying to give what you wrote the most
> generous possible interpretation.
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> There is no realistic way for these disconnects to happen now, as
> acknowledged by the fifth principal in the draft. How does creating a
> framework to accomplish this do anything other than increase the
> disconnects?
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>
Hi Brandon,

Thanks for your email, brother!

You put forward a good objection for this proposal.

...i think the proposal is a wise idea, but imho it can
 not touch the root-causes of the problem at hand.

It seems to be the same approach as the anti-shutdown
 DPP (Draft Policy Proposal) [1].
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[1]: <https://afrinic.net/policy/archive/anti-shutdown-02/amp>

Applying sanctions to a country has side effects... :'-(

To figure it out, one should look at the below scenario:

~°~
1] This draft proposal reaches a rough consensus
2] A selection is done to build the Operational Team (OT)
3] The OT agrees on a rough consensus on the
decision to apply specific sanctions on a given
country government's Internet infrastructure used
to spread their "propaganda" globaly...
4] The OT implements the consensual decision
5] The Internet's infrastructure of that ccGov is
shutdown. No more trafic from it to the Internet!
6] That ccGov decides to cut the rest of the
Internet's interconnexions of their country to the
Internet...
7] The whole country is unreacheable from the Internet
8] That ccGov is the only source of "information"
 within their country boundaries
9] ...
~°~

As the draft proposal seems to target cc Governments,
 practically speaking, then what if the policy-decision
 to be implemented concerns the usGov?

Thanks.

Shalom,
--sb.



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> Brandon
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