Also, I realise I'm kinda taking your comment out of context and jumping on it to harp on my favorite pet peeve, so, yeah, sorry about that.
--TimH On Sat, 18 Sep 2021 13:28:02 -0700 Tim Howe <ti...@bendtel.com> wrote: > On Fri, 17 Sep 2021 21:15:00 -0700 > Owen DeLong via NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> wrote: > > > Unless their infrastructure runs significantly on hardware and > > software pre-2004 (unlikely), so does the cost of adding IPv6 to > > their content servers. Especially if they’re using a CDN such as > > Akamai. > > Owen, I have nothing but respect for you, but this is a > fantasy... I provide FTTx services to business and residential. I had > to fight, and grind, and test for over a year to get a mix of hardware > and software that would provide anything resembling IPv6 equivalent > services to most of our customers. The only devices in my network that > worked with few problems are my Adtran gpon/xgs-pon cards (try to find > DHCPv6 option-18 support on anything else)... EVERYTHING else I used > from my Juniper routers to customer CPE had to go through more rounds > of testing and bug fixes than I could name - for years. > > I've provided static v6 services to business customers for a > long time (with no takers), but dynamic, scalable residential services > was very hard. There are still holes in our infrastructure because most > vendors I am dealing with are doing very little to no v6 testing and > still think I am a weirdo for asking for it. Every ACS vendor is > either just now working on it, or thinks they have it until I point out > to them that they don't. There have been some vendors that were good > to work with: Juniper fixed the bugs I reported once I was able to > prove to them it really was on there end (DHCPv6 relay server). ZyXel > has been good to work with; they care about and fix bugs that are > reported. > > There are also big vendors I won't work with any more because > they do not have full v6 support for features I need, and they have no > plans to have it. I'm not a big enough customer for them to care about > what I want. I have devices with 2 year old software and zero v6 > support and none is coming ever; these are not no-name vendors; they > are big. > > People who think modern equipment is ready to provide native > dual-stack services at scale to their customers are either using stuff > very similar to mine, or are simply not doing it yet or have a lot of > compromises. > > --TimH