> > I'm not sure if there needs to be a separate "cabal" amongst the major > network operators that cover every corner of the world to agree to this, > as I expect more talking here on NANOG than action around this issue. > But I'd be happy to join and support such a cabal, with the backing of > my own management toward making this commitment, at least from an > African standpoint. >
If the Telecom Infra Project <https://telecominfraproject.com/participants/> is a good indicator of what operators can achieve by uniting, then you're on a good trajectory. Cheers, Etienne On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 9:25 AM Mark Tinka <mark@tinka.africa> wrote: > > > On 9/8/21 08:50, Saku Ytti wrote: > > > Fully agreed, I just don't see the driver. But I can imagine a > > different timeline where in 2000 several tier1 signed mutual binding > > contracts to drop IPv4 at the edge in 2020. And no one opposed, > > because 20 years before was 1980, and 20 years in the future IPv4 > > wont' anymore be a thing, it's clear due to exponential growth. > > > > And we'd all be enjoying a much simplified stack and lower costs all > > around (vendor, us, customers). > > > > Why is this not possible now? Why would we not sign this mutual > > agreement for 2040? Otherwise we'll be having this same discussion in > > 2040. > > I do not see why this is not possible now. > > In fact, I'd go as far as saying that the proposal should be shortened > from 20 years to 10 years from today. 10 years is not unreasonable. > > I'm not sure if there needs to be a separate "cabal" amongst the major > network operators that cover every corner of the world to agree to this, > as I expect more talking here on NANOG than action around this issue. > But I'd be happy to join and support such a cabal, with the backing of > my own management toward making this commitment, at least from an > African standpoint. > > I know at least 3 or 4 other operators in Africa that would be willing > to commit to the same, either directly or by proxy with us. > > Do we drive this through the IETF, or just have private, multi-lateral > agreements, as major operators? > > I'm now just thinking of how we get this idea off the ground, and stop > talking too much. > > Mark. > -- Ing. Etienne-Victor Depasquale Assistant Lecturer Department of Communications & Computer Engineering Faculty of Information & Communication Technology University of Malta Web. https://www.um.edu.mt/profile/etiennedepasquale
