That doesn't really serve any value and 99.9999999999% of people
would not pay
any more than $50 for the ability, so your ability to execute
such a system is
limited.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
Midwest-IX
http://www.midwest-ix.com
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From: "Lady Benjamin Cannon of Glencoe" <l...@6by7.net>
To: "Laura Smith" <n5d9xq3ti233xiyif...@protonmail.ch>
Cc: "NANOG Operators' Group" <nanog@nanog.org>
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2021 4:43:50 PM
Subject: Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections
I’m right there with you. I can download an entire Mac OS
update in 6 minutes.
It’s astonishing. I’d pay a grand a month for this. I’d pay
five.
-LB
Ms. Lady Benjamin PD Cannon of Glencoe, ASCE
6x7 Networks & 6x7 Telecom, LLC
CEO
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company in the
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On May 29, 2021, at 1:57 AM, Laura Smith via NANOG
<nanog@nanog.org> wrote:
I agree with Dan.
In Switzerland you can get 10Gb symmetric to the home for
49.95 per month
(or 39.95 if you have a mobile with the same ISP) .
As with Dan, average utilisation is measured in Mb.
But then the ability to go from that to download 10GB of the
latest patches
from Microsoft or Apple, or the ability to upload large
files for off-site
backups or for friends/customers .... I don't know what I'd
do without it !
And of course, the days of the buffering wheel of death when
streaming 4K
TV is long gone ... I can have multiple people in multiple
rooms in my
house streaming 4K and nobody notices.
I would never, ever, go back to DSL. Even if they hiked the
price 5x, I'd
still pay it.
Coming back to the original question on this thread, my
answer would be the
minimum for 2021 should be 1/1. Anything less than that is
a bit silly and
will soon be obsolete.
‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
On Saturday, 29 May 2021 04:50, Dan Stralka
<mrsyelt...@gmail.com> wrote:
But it is reality, it's just not your reality, Mike.
Brandon's ISP
can provide that service.
So should there be a more granular definition of speeds
mandated based
on population density, last mile tech, etc?
I was in the camp that you didn't need higher bandwidth
than you'd
normally find - I was happy on my 50/10 plan. Then my
ISP upgraded me
to a 300/50 or thereabouts and it was a night and day
difference in
getting things done.
Just like your example of average utilization being in
the single
megabits per second, my average utilization is near
zero. But when I
need to move files I can burst to speeds that aren't
embarrassing in
2021.
Higher bandwidth is both welcome and necessary. It
doesn't have to be
sustained throughout the contract to be required. The
only question is
how feasible it is, and I suspect it's quite feasible
for larger
players.
Dan
(end)
On Fri, May 28, 2021, 22:33 Mike Hammett
<na...@ics-il.net> wrote:
That's not based in any kind of reality.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
Midwest-IX
http://www.midwest-ix.com
From: "Brandon Price" <pri...@sherwoodoregon.gov>
To: "Sean Donelan" <s...@donelan.com>, "NANOG
Operators' Group"
<nanog@nanog.org>
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2021 5:21:53 PM
Subject: RE: New minimum speed for US broadband
connections
100/100 minimum for sure.
In our small neck of the woods, we are currently
doing 250/250 for
$45 and 1000/1000 for $60 no data caps.
We have lost some grants on rural builds because
"someone" in the
census block claims they provide broadband.. Not
hard to put an AP
up on a tower and hit the current definition's
upload speed.
I get a chuckle when the providers tell the customer
what they
"need"...
Brandon Price
Senior Network Engineer
City of Sherwood, Sherwood Broadband
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From: NANOG
<nanog-bounces+priceb=sherwoodoregon....@nanog.org>
On
Behalf Of Sean Donelan
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 5:33 PM
To: NANOG Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org>
Subject: Re: New minimum speed for US broadband
connections
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On Thu, 27 May 2021, Lady Benjamin Cannon of
Glencoe, ASCE wrote:
At least 100/100.
We don’t like selling slower than 10g anymore,
that’s what I’d
start everyone at if I could.
At $50/month or less?
Maximize number of households of all demographic
groups.
