I was not sure what a TI-99/4a is. I thought it's a new kind of phone.

Lol

You got me!

Jean

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From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+jean=ddostest...@nanog.org> On Behalf Of Jared Mauch
Sent: April 10, 2021 7:10 PM
To: Laura Smith <n5d9xq3ti233xiyif...@protonmail.ch>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Google IP Geolocation

I've had a similar issue in the past trying to get ready to peer with them. I 
wanted portal access to look at things. I may yet post a geofeed file just 
because. 

(I was also rejected a portal account, didn't escalate to friends at google 
because I know my traffic is under a gig for now). 

- Jared 
 
Ps: Akamai can take geofeed if you have issues

Sent from my TI-99/4a

> On Apr 10, 2021, at 4:57 AM, Laura Smith via NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> wrote:
> 
> Yup. I've had this problem with Google for two years now.
> 
> "We're Google. We know better than you. We're not interested in discussion. 
> And no, you can't have access to the ISP portal you silly little person"  
> ...... is the summary of my experience.
> 
> And all this is despite my network peering with Google over a major IXP.  
> They *STILL* can't get the right geolocation despite having a direct peering 
> session with us over the exchange !
> 
> Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email.
> 
> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>> On Monday, 29 March 2021 21:12, Troy Kelly via NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> wrote:
>> 
>> We've also been denied access to the ISP portal.
>> 
>> When we replied as to why, we were told to not open another ticket. They 
>> aren't interested in conversation.
>> 
>> Sent from ProtonMail mobile
>> 
>> -------- Original Message --------
>>> On 30 Mar 2021, 6:53 am, Mike Hammett < na...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've had others at Google specifically say that portal should be used for 
>>> that purpose, so maybe they need to make sure right and left hands know 
>>> what the other is doing.
>>> 
>>> -----
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>> 
>>> Midwest-IX
>>> http://www.midwest-ix.com
>>> 
>>> From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>> To: "Christopher Morrow" <morrowc.li...@gmail.com>
>>> Cc: nanog@nanog.org
>>> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 1:52:48 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Google IP Geolocation
>>> 
>>> https://isp.google.com
>>> 
>>> I signed up for an account there and they said:
>>> 
>>> "Currently, the Google ISP portal is designed for our partners of GGC, PNI 
>>> or IX programs.
>>>  
>>> The access to portal is granted on request only to our partners." 
>>> 
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Mar 29, 2021 at 2:08 PM Christopher Morrow 
>>>> <morrowc.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Mar 29, 2021 at 1:59 PM Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Google ISP specifically told me they didn't want to do deal with 
>>>>> geolocation on the ISP portal.
>>>> 
>>>> unsure who 'google isp' is here, but ... I think if you point at a 
>>>> properly formed geo-location data file it'll get eaten and produce proper 
>>>> results for you.
>>>> you do have to add that in your isp portal:
>>>>    tri-pipe-thingy -> configuration -> IP geolocation and /register 
>>>> feed/ button on that page.
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 3:28 PM Christopher Morrow 
>>>>> <morrowc.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> As a note, on the ISP portal there's a place to put a link to your 
>>>>>> RFC8805 format geolocation feed...
>>>>>> these are scraped out 'regularly' and help keep things oriented better 
>>>>>> for folks.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> the ietf noc folk use this method to tell google (and other folk who 
>>>>>> scrape out our data) where meetings are before the meetings get there:
>>>>>>   https://noc.ietf.org/geo/google.csv
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -chris
>>>>>> volunteer noc persona
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 6:43 PM Michael K. Spears <mich...@spears.io> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Awesome, I think I’ve figured out the Google ISP portal signup, 
>>>>>>> but it definitely seems semi-complicated in a way, notably 
>>>>>>> finding the link…
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Michael K. Spears
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 727.656.3347
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> From: Mike Hammett <na...@ics-il.net>
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 6:30 PM
>>>>>>> To: Michael K. Spears <mich...@spears.io>
>>>>>>> Cc: nanog@nanog.org
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Google IP Geolocation
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We're working on a video to show people how to sign up for the ISP 
>>>>>>> portal and get to that part of the portal once signed up. We'll drop a 
>>>>>>> link to it near the Google section of our geolocation page.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Midwest-IX
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> http://www.midwest-ix.com
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> From: "Michael K. Spears" <mich...@spears.io>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> To: nanog@nanog.org
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 5:10:23 PM
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Subject: Google IP Geolocation
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Anyone have a good contact at Google who can help with IP geolocation? 
>>>>>>> I have a /24 where anything related to Google is in the wrong language.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Michael K. Spears

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