But obviously my experience and age has failed to break me of top-posting .. sorry!
..Allen > On Mar 25, 2021, at 12:51, Allen McKinley Kitchen (gmail) > <allenmckinleykitc...@gmail.com> wrote: > > And to push this point further: > > I don’t claim to speak for all graybeards, but now that I am past the era of > enjoying my kids' school activities, and resting on an empty nest, I once > again don’t mind being involved in what younger engineers are doing far > beyond “work hours”. There are a few reasons for that: it turns out that this > is when “the kids” tend to be doing the most interesting and boundary-pushing > work, and the observations that an old-head can offer are sometimes welcome; > also, that lets me have a vital window on what they're doing and how it may > affect the world as we know it; and finally, rather than being jealous of my > time, my beloved speaks of being proud of how I am called on by younger peers > and can remember things that the kids haven’t had time to learn. > > Now that last one has no real network application .. but it makes me feel > good. > > So .. ages and stages, +1. > > ..Allen > >> On Mar 25, 2021, at 00:26, Mark Tinka <mark@tinka.africa> wrote: >> >> >> >>>> On 3/24/21 17:59, Seth Mattinen wrote: >>> >>> >>> I think age has something to do with that too, and I don't mean this as >>> offensive at all because I've been there done that, but lack of other >>> things going on in life. When I was 19 I had no problem being available on >>> my cell phone at all times. I'd do weekends and nights with joy. I'd >>> volunteer to take all the extra projects the older people didn't want. I'd >>> make up projects just because. I'd respond to messages/emails/whatever >>> immediately if I was awake no matter what time it was. Hell, I used to >>> respond to NOC stuff while I was sitting in class rather than wait until >>> the end. >>> >>> Now that I'm older and have things like a house and family, I slowly >>> shifted to not wanting to be available constantly. I'd rather work on some >>> house project, bake a cake, watch TV with the wife, or play games I missed >>> out on when I was "busy" with stuff that hardly seems important now. I >>> don't want my life to be a slave to apps or jump at every notification I >>> get. I have a laptop just in case I need one, but my primary work area is >>> my desk with desktop computer. When I step away from my desk I'm really >>> stepping away, not transitioning to the sofa or dinner table to keep >>> working on a laptop (something I did in my 20's). Now if someone messages >>> me and I don't think it's time critical I'll get back to it when I feel >>> like it. If it's emergency pick up the phone and dial a voice call: if it's >>> not worth that much effort, it's not that important. I don't want to end up >>> divorced or have a contentious home life because I can't separate work from >>> the wife and kids. >>> >>> So the way I see it there will *always* be a general disconnect in how the >>> younger and older groups prefer to interact because they're simply at >>> completely different stages in their lives. >> >> 100%. >> >> Mark. >>
