-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I've really got ask if this thread has run it's course.
Given the nature of earlier discussions of off-topic issues, I think we've pretty much jumped the shark with people's personal anecdotes of how to disable fiber connectivity. - - ferg - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Ravi Pina <r...@cow.org> Date: Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 10:51 PM Subject: Re: Outside plant protection, fiber cuts, interwebz down oh noes! To: JC Dill <jcdill.li...@gmail.com> Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org> On Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 10:22:41PM -0700, JC Dill wrote: > Ravi Pina wrote: > > > >That said one would *hope* vault access > >is not trivial and there are mechanisms in place to alert of > >unauthorized, unlawful entry. > > I regularly drove on these roads when these lines were being put in > up-and-down the SF Peninsula. There are 4 manhole covers every 1/4 mile > or so that provide access to this fiber. Do the math. Multiply by the > number of miles of fiber runs across the world, and the number of access > points per mile on each run. Exactly how do you plan to make "vault > access non-trivial" and yet make the access as easy as it needs to be > for routine maintenance and repair? Having never been in a vault or know how to get in one other than apparently lifting a manhole cover I can't possible answer that with anything more than guessing. > My guess is that it is probably less expensive in the long run to leave > them unprotected and just fix the problems when they occur than to try > to "secure" the vaults and deal with the costs and extended outage > delays when access it "secured" and it takes longer to get into a vault > to fix things. I wasn't thinking Exodus/C&W/SAVVIS/Whoever level security, but considering communications cables traverse such sites it is hardly unreasonable to think they could implement some alarm that is centrally monitored by a NOC. I'm guessing *anything* is better than what appears to be the *nothing* that is in place now. Also not to get sensationalist, but less expensive than a life that could be lost if an emergency call can't be put through? - -r -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP Desktop 9.5.3 (Build 5003) wj8DBQFJ3uJ/q1pz9mNUZTMRAoRhAJ9m7GTv719RlXUrR6vuGigwpuhJSwCg+sc5 KLrSxYR/cRu1IJOjjM4Go0c= =x059 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson Engineering Architecture for the Internet fergdawgster(at)gmail.com ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/