On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 10:41 AM Dave Bell <m...@geordish.org> wrote:
> > Not indiscriminate. >> > > Indiscriminate - done at random or without careful judgement. > > Considering that Daniel is complaining that QUIC is broken, it certainly > seems like some network operators are subjecting all UDP traffic on their > network to the same policers. This feels pretty indiscriminate to me. > > I'm all for policing the known baddies, such as CHARGEN and NTP, but to > discard UDP for fun is like taking a sledgehammer where a scalpel will do. > > For fun? We are done here Access networks need controls to maintain uptime against the non-stop >> barrage of ddos attacks. I am sure you have seen the headlines and mails on >> this list, ddos is hard to deal with. Access network will use whatever >> tools are required to keep the pagers quiet and customers happy. >> > > I operate an access network that does not blanket police UDP. Google give > me a dashboard that tell me 45% of requests were served happily by QUIC, > and I have no customers complaining about things not working, and our > pagers are silent. >
