Except I’m not talking about CPE. I agree that’s the customer’s job.
I’m talking about keeping the nodes up and running. > On Oct 15, 2019, at 7:50 AM, Brandon Martin <lists.na...@monmotha.net> wrote: > >> On 10/15/2019 09:42, Matt Hoppes wrote: >> I disagree with the statement that providers should not be required to >> backup their networks.... while I don't think it should be an FCC >> requirement, I do believe the providers have an obligation to do that. >> That's one of the reasons we generally opt for larger node sizes. Yes, it >> does cut down on the total bandwidth you can push out to end users, but in a >> disaster its much faster to recover as well as provide backup power that is >> up 24x7 vs hundreds of little nodes. > > > I'm generally OK with the provider pushing demarc CPE backup power off onto > the customer unless they're providing "POTS-like" service. Aside from POTS, > I don't think there's ever been expectation of telecommunications services > working during a power outage unless the end user provides backup power. I'm > not even sure residential deployments of ISDN came with power for > customer-prem ATAs, etc. unless you made special arrangements, but ISDN was > never popular here, so I'm not sure. If you have a T1 PRI, the LEC will > probably keep it up to your prem, but you're responsible for keeping whatever > you're plugging that T1 into up during a power outage. Heck, they may not > even do that. I've certainly seen T1 smartjacks hosting real, honest PRIs > that were line-powering repeaters without battery on them, so who knows even > in that case. > > After all, the user has to keep the equipment they're using up, too. That's > certainly not the provider's responsibility. Telcos aren't power utilities > (usually, and when they are it's generally a separate operation). Yes, I > understand that many users have wireless/portable in-home equipment with > batteries of their own and are often using all-in-one demarc/routers provided > by their provider, nowadays... > > I do think that providers should generally at least offer some basic guidance > on how their users might accomplish this even going so far as to provide, > install, and maintain such means if paid to do so, but I don't think it's > something to be expected when you're buying cable TV or public Internet > access service. Again, POTS-like service is different. > > I do feel that modern IP providers really should strive to keep their end of > the network up regardless. That is, even during a reasonable power outage, > providers should be able to deliver usable signal to their customers absent > actual damage to plant. Exceptions made for natural disasters, fuel > shortages, and widespread, extended power outages that just overcome the > ability to shuttle portable gensets around fast enough to keep batteries > charged. However, unless you're otherwise subject to regulation due to > monopoly status, having received ample amounts of build-out subsidy, or > providing historically regulated telecommunications services, I'm not sure > that regulation is the best way to achieve this. > > -- > Brandon Martin