Ouch!!!!

On Aug 22, 2019, at 5:51 PM, Emille Blanc <emi...@abccommunications.com> wrote:

>> I don’t know where you’re doing your licensing but I pay about $500 every 10 
>> years for my license links.
> 
> I should have clarified - CA operator here.
> I expect Industry Canada fees differ quite a bit, but that's about our 
> average for licensing in the upper bands.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Hoppes [mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net] 
> Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2019 2:43 PM
> To: Emille Blanc
> Cc: Bradley Burch; Sean Donelan; nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Re: FCC Takes Action Against WISPs That Interfered with FCC Weather 
> Radar
> 
> I don’t know where you’re doing your licensing but I pay about $500 every 10 
> years for my license links.
> 
> And $25,000 is what you paid to use the link in legally possibly causing 
> wanton endangerment to life, and then you have to stop using it.
> 
>> On Aug 22, 2019, at 5:31 PM, Emille Blanc <emi...@abccommunications.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> $25k seems like a cheap fine, really. Have you seen the price of spectrum 
>> these days?
>> And links operating in a licensed spectrum tend to incur $1k per link per 
>> year in usage fees.
>> 
>>> Most gear now will hop frequencies automatically if they receive a DFS 
>>> interference.
>>> If your gear supports this, turn it on.
>> 
>> Said gear almost always has an option to ignore it too, thanks to different 
>> regulatory requirements.
>> 
>> North-American operator: Hey, you're actually in India, so don't do DFS on 
>> those channels!
>> Radio equipment: 'Kay.
>> 
>> Queue argument for doing it right and having a link in a non-DFS susceptible 
>> channel to survive those many-minute long radar event triggered outages.
>> And counter-argument for the increased costs, so what's the point in using 
>> cheap 5GHz radios and spectrum in the first place?
>> Counter-counter-argument that 5GHz gear is so cheap! Such throughput! Wow!
>> 
>> I've seen and heard these stories before, and that's usually how it goes.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Bradley Burch
>> Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2019 2:09 PM
>> To: Sean Donelan
>> Cc: nanog@nanog.org
>> Subject: Re: FCC Takes Action Against WISPs That Interfered with FCC Weather 
>> Radar
>> 
>> 
>> Most gear now will hop frequencies automatically if they receive a DFS 
>> interference.
>> 
>> If your gear supports this, turn it on.
>> Brad,
>> 
>>> On Aug 22, 2019, at 3:42 PM, Sean Donelan <s...@donelan.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I haven't been paying attention to the WISP market, so I'm not up to speed 
>>> on these issues.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-proposes-fines-against-wisps-and-issues-warning-industry-0
>>> 
>>> The Federal Communications Commission’s Enforcement Bureau today announced 
>>> proposed fines and issued a formal industry warning related to devices that 
>>> apparently caused interference to the Federal Aviation Administration’s 
>>> terminal doppler weather radar station in San Juan, Puerto Rico. The 
>>> Enforcement Bureau proposed three separate $25,000 fines against wireless 
>>> Internet service providers Boom Solutions, Integra Wireless, and WinPR.
>>> 
>>> [...]
>>> 
>>> In addition to the proposed fines, the Bureau’s Enforcement Advisory warned 
>>> operators, manufacturers, and marketers of Unlicensed National Information 
>>> Infrastructure devices that these devices must be certified under FCC 
>>> rules. Such devices that operate in the 5.25 GHz to 5.35 GHz and 5.47 GHz 
>>> to 5.725 GHz bands risk interfering with radar systems if not properly 
>>> configured to share the spectrum
>>> 
>>> [...]
>> 
> 

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