> I don’t know where you’re doing your licensing but I pay about $500 every 10 
> years for my license links.

I should have clarified - CA operator here.
I expect Industry Canada fees differ quite a bit, but that's about our average 
for licensing in the upper bands.

-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Hoppes [mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net] 
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2019 2:43 PM
To: Emille Blanc
Cc: Bradley Burch; Sean Donelan; nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: FCC Takes Action Against WISPs That Interfered with FCC Weather 
Radar

I don’t know where you’re doing your licensing but I pay about $500 every 10 
years for my license links.

And $25,000 is what you paid to use the link in legally possibly causing wanton 
endangerment to life, and then you have to stop using it.

> On Aug 22, 2019, at 5:31 PM, Emille Blanc <emi...@abccommunications.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> $25k seems like a cheap fine, really. Have you seen the price of spectrum 
> these days?
> And links operating in a licensed spectrum tend to incur $1k per link per 
> year in usage fees.
> 
>> Most gear now will hop frequencies automatically if they receive a DFS 
>> interference.
>> If your gear supports this, turn it on.
> 
> Said gear almost always has an option to ignore it too, thanks to different 
> regulatory requirements.
> 
> North-American operator: Hey, you're actually in India, so don't do DFS on 
> those channels!
> Radio equipment: 'Kay.
> 
> Queue argument for doing it right and having a link in a non-DFS susceptible 
> channel to survive those many-minute long radar event triggered outages.
> And counter-argument for the increased costs, so what's the point in using 
> cheap 5GHz radios and spectrum in the first place?
> Counter-counter-argument that 5GHz gear is so cheap! Such throughput! Wow!
> 
> I've seen and heard these stories before, and that's usually how it goes.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Bradley Burch
> Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2019 2:09 PM
> To: Sean Donelan
> Cc: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Re: FCC Takes Action Against WISPs That Interfered with FCC Weather 
> Radar
> 
> 
> Most gear now will hop frequencies automatically if they receive a DFS 
> interference.
> 
> If your gear supports this, turn it on.
> Brad,
> 
>> On Aug 22, 2019, at 3:42 PM, Sean Donelan <s...@donelan.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I haven't been paying attention to the WISP market, so I'm not up to speed 
>> on these issues.
>> 
>> 
>> https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-proposes-fines-against-wisps-and-issues-warning-industry-0
>> 
>> The Federal Communications Commission’s Enforcement Bureau today announced 
>> proposed fines and issued a formal industry warning related to devices that 
>> apparently caused interference to the Federal Aviation Administration’s 
>> terminal doppler weather radar station in San Juan, Puerto Rico. The 
>> Enforcement Bureau proposed three separate $25,000 fines against wireless 
>> Internet service providers Boom Solutions, Integra Wireless, and WinPR.
>> 
>> [...]
>> 
>> In addition to the proposed fines, the Bureau’s Enforcement Advisory warned 
>> operators, manufacturers, and marketers of Unlicensed National Information 
>> Infrastructure devices that these devices must be certified under FCC rules. 
>> Such devices that operate in the 5.25 GHz to 5.35 GHz and 5.47 GHz to 5.725 
>> GHz bands risk interfering with radar systems if not properly configured to 
>> share the spectrum
>> 
>> [...]
> 

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