John,

Please reread my comments. I did not say “carriers” and specifically excluded 
the FCC’s definition. I said “Common Carriers”, as defined by Common Law. The 
DMCA asserts that they must operate as CCs under this definition: in order to 
get protection under Safe Harbor they must function as a “passive conduit” of 
information.  

-mel via cell

> On Aug 6, 2019, at 7:36 PM, John Levine <jo...@iecc.com> wrote:
> 
> In article <6956e76b-e6b7-409f-a636-c7607bfd8...@beckman.org> you write:
>> Mehmet,
>> 
>> I’m not sure if you understand the terms under which ISPs operate as “common 
>> carriers”, and thus enjoy immunity from lawsuits due to the acts of their 
>> customers.
> 
> ISPs in the U.S. are not carriers and never have been.  Even the ISPs
> that are subsidaries of telcos, which are common carriers for their
> telco operations, are not common carriers for their ISPs.
> 
> This should not come as surprise to anyone who's spent 15 minutes
> looking at the relevant law.
> 
> ISPs are probably protected by 47 USC 230(c)(1) but all of the case
> law I know is related to web sites or hosting providers.
> 
> 

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