On 13/09/2008, at 7:21 PM, Randy Bush wrote:

i am occasionally asked if there have been real bgp attacks (not slips).
the answer is, of course yes, but there are none which can be publicly
described. when bucks and embarrassment are involved, security through
obscurity seems to rule.

but tony and alex did us an enormous favor by publicly conducting such
an attack, see http://www.merit.edu/mail.archives/nanog/msg10357.html

so, what i want to know is which, if any of the tools being discussed on this thread *actually* did or could detect and/or mitigate the tony/ alex
defcon attack.

i appreciate the dozens of tools that detect and mitigate finger or
brain fumbles.  but those are not where the black hats are gonna go to
make the big bucks.


Yep, that was my point before.

My concern is that unless there is big bold text saying that it's not a solution, and then reference to longer optional text for those that care about why, people will get a false sense of security.

--
Nathan Ward





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