* Jim Graham <spooky1...@gmail.com> [01-09-13 12:25]:
> On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 11:54:57AM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> > * Alexander Gattin <xr...@yandex.ru> [01-09-13 11:23]:
> > > On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 09:50:59AM -0500, Patrick
> > > Shanahan wrote:
> 
> > > that way 10 years ago.  SMTP servers no longer accept users' mail at
> > > port 25, but tend to do this at ports 465 and 587 instead.
> 
> Wrong.

Wrong?  Was your statement, not mine.  465 is ssh and 587 for smtp
submission.  Port 25 is still used/usable if not blocked/hijacked by your
isp, and then you can use a upper/higher port.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_Mail_Transfer_Protocol
<quote>
Simple Mail Transfer Protocol (SMTP) is an Internet standard for
electronic mail (e-mail) transmission across Internet Protocol (IP)
networks. SMTP was first defined by RFC 821 (1982, eventually declared STD
10),[1] and last updated by RFC 5321 (2008)[2] which includes the Extended
SMTP (ESMTP) additions, and is the protocol in widespread use today. SMTP
uses TCP port 25. The protocol for new submissions (MSA) is effectively
the same as SMTP, but it uses port 587 instead. SMTP connections secured
by SSL are known by the shorthand SMTPS, though SMTPS is not a protocol in
its own right.
</quote> 

> > no, not so.  And I can do the same from windoz.  It is nothing to do with
> > *nix but with *configuration* of your mailing system.
> 
> To expand on that a bit further, *IF* I remember correctly, I saw a
> comment in sendmail.cf on my old FreeBSD system stating that these ports
> are typically used for SMTP with authentication.  Port 25 can still be
> used, if not blocked, etc., but lack of authentication opens the doors to
> spamvermin if exposed to the outside network (beyond the user's LAN).
> 
> > afa port 25, some isp's block port 25
> 
> Mine (cox.net) doesn't block it, as such...they hijack it and re-direct
> it to their own SMTP server.  At least, they did back when I was trying
> to figure out why my e-mails to Android development related lists were
> not authenticating properly with gmail's SMTP servers, and thus were
> being dropped into /dev/null at the lists' googlegroups server.

But you are not limited to port 25 for outgoing mail.  Assign a higher
port, >1024.
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