On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 07:45:32PM -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> * jeremy bentham <d...@eskimo.com> [06-23-12 19:36]:
>  ... 
> > Ok, I installed msmtp and after a bit of flailing about got it
> > working.
> > 
> > Part of the flailing included an error message from
> > mail.eskimo.com that it didn't support authentication.  
> > So I suppose it's puking when mutt insists.
> > 
> > msmtp has a way to turn that off; does mutt? If it's
> > smtp_authenticators, what do I put there?

> TFM suggests:
> 
>    The built-in SMTP support supports encryption (the smtps protocol using
> [...]

> 3.263. smtp_authenticators
>         
>    Type: string
> [...]

Yes.  I found this.  I tried various values, including the empty
string, and nothing changed.

I concluded, based on what msmtp told me when I was
(mis-)configuring it ("the server does not support
authentication" or words to that effect) that mutt was still
trying to authenticate me to the mailserver, regardless of _what_
value I gave smtp_authenticators.  I even tried stuff like "NONE"
and "%#gobblede***ker".

msmtp has commands to turn off tls and authentication, and once I
did that everything worked.

When I send now, mutt runs an imap login, which gives me access
to the smtp server.

I'm asking if mutt has the equivalent of msmtp's
  tls=off
  auth=off .

I know, it's kind of silly to try to fix it now (if it ain't
broke....) but the duplication of functionality...just bugs me,
I guess:  using two programs where one should work.

FWIW, the eskimo person I talked to says RSN they'll have an
improved server and this problem will go away.

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