On Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 05:15:36PM +0100, Toby Cubitt wrote:

> the Disposition-Notification-To: header. So to request receipts, it may
> be sufficient to add this header to your outgoing emails using mutt's
> my_hdr command.

That puts the header into every outgoing email, and ppl on mailing
lists will complain about it.

> As for automatically sending a read receipt when you open a mail in mutt,
> I imagine it should be possible to cook something up using message-hooks
> and a little scripting.

If you can do what I described in my OP with a little scripting,
that's great for you, but I don't see how to do it. I'd have to write
a program in C for it and somehow make it work with mutt --- and
preferably make it so that it can be used with other MUAs as well. I
don't know of any MUA that deals with return reciepts in the way
described in my OP.

> So, with a little effort, what you want can probably already be done
> using standard mutt features (plus maybe some external tools for
> automatically sending receipts).

Ok, how so? Refer to to my OP for a more detailed description of how
it's supposed to work ...

> > As to comments about the requests being ignored and therefore
> > pointless: Sorry, but these comments are themselves pointless.
> 
> No, the comments were not pointless.

I'm aware of the issues involved with return reciepts but still have
use for them. It's not my intention at all to debate the usefulness or
privacy concerns of return reciepts in general or in particular. Such
a debate wouldn't take me any closer to a solution. I'd find it much
more interesting to talk about how a good support for return reciepts
should be designed.

This is not to say these points aren't valid. I'm not sending return
reciepts, either, but that's because there isn't good support for
them: None in mutt, apparently, and I've seen only MUAs that offered
only to either ask if I want to send a reciept or always send one or
don't send any at all. None of these three options is sufficient. If
there's a MUA that can do better, I'd be curious to hear about it. And
why shouldn't mutt be the MUA that can do better in that than others?

Having that said, it comes to mind that more users of mutt might make
use of return reciepts if there was well designed support for them
... One way to address privacy concerns could be, for example, to
queue the reciepts one wants to send and then send them all at once
automatically, perhaps once or twice a day at fixed times. Perhaps
that's a poor idea, I don't know.

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