On 08:20 11 Aug 2002, David T-G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| ...and then David Rock said...
| % On Sun, Aug 11, 2002 at 01:34:55PM +1000, Cameron Simpson wrote:
| % > Or with no legitimate domain name to use for outgoing return information;
| % > have an opressive ISP (eg optus@home, my cable provider) you _can't_
| % > run an publicly visible SMTP server because optus filter that port.
| % Wouldn't you just use my_hdr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] to cover most of 
| % this problem?
| How do you get such a mail out to the outside world so that someone can
| see that address and reply to it?

Oh that side is easy - your home system knows how to send, directly
(Optus block inbound SMTP, not outbound SMTP). The problem is that the
home machine will either stamp unqualified addresses ("cameron") with
a bogus domain (eg "localhost.localdomain" on unmodified redhat boxes)
or with the ISP's domain (if you've so configured it), which is a LIE,
because most accounts on your machine either don't exist in the ISP or
collide with other users.

the crucial point most people seem to miss here, aside from the whole
lack-of-domain thing, is that if you're going to use you local machines
mail system, _all_ email clients must be able to use it (without special
config hacks like my_hdr), and all local accounts must be able to use it.
That's the whole point! A single user single client setup might as well
speak directly to a legitimate SMTP service from one's ISP.
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Cameron Simpson, DoD#743        [EMAIL PROTECTED]    http://www.zip.com.au/~cs/

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