> > fcc-save-hook  (.*adsl.*@(lists.|)unixathome.org)         =adsl-List
> > fcc-save-hook '~f [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~s adsl' =adsl-List
> > fcc-save-hook '~t [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~s adsl' =adsl-List
> 
> hmm... - does this list rewrite the sender
> thus sending all mails as "From: majordomo"?
> in that case replace the maillist software!

There's nothing wrong with the maillist software (majordomo).
Line 1 catches list emails and my postings to the list, lines 2 and 3
administrative emails from+to the list server software.

> however, if there is a special address for the distribution
> (like usual) then it should be as simple as this:
> 
>   fcc-save-hook '~C [EMAIL PROTECTED]' =ADSL

As to my experience (with procmail filtering), it is unreliable to
expect that the send-msg-to-list address appears in To: or Cc:.

> But if you just want so save *some* mails from the list
> which happen to have "adsl" in the Subject line

No, just keeping each list in its own file.

> mutt is no replacement for procmail.
> if your problem is with procmail
> then you should be posting elsewhere.

I never have problems with procmail, just with dumb MUAs... :)
I do however require any MUA to function flawlessly in combination with
procmail. The MUA doesn't get it until procmail is finished. With me anyway.

> there's fcc-hook and fcc-save-hook and with header editing
> you can also use your editor's feature to adjust the Fcc.
> have you tried these?

Yes, hence my question. Editing the headers with the msg each time isn't so
great (dumb repetive things are best left to a silicon box).

> besides, when you have "set save_name" then mails
> sent to listname@domain get saved in +listname.
> and if you need a different name for +listname,
> well, there's "ln -s" to create symlinks!

Hell no, what a pollution in my mail directory tree! Remember: some dozen
lists.

> > Don't you think it is a common sense to save a copy of outgoing message
> > to the *same* folder as you are reading from?
> Not really, too much clutter. I prefer to have a special "sent messages"
> folder.

I find it easier to remove the sent msg from the list file once my copy arrives
then to remove it from a common outbox file. It's useful to keep a copy for the
time being because some mail servers can be dodgy at times. And, as David T-G
says, for personal communication an fcc to the currently read mail file is
preferable.

Everybody works differently, perhaps another config option?

> It's already pretty easy. Make a script something like this:
[...]

May work, but isn't that rather a cludge? It's surely not so user-friendly.

> % It requires a folder-hook for each list - blerrg.
> 
> Well, that's not so bad; after all, mutt can parse them for you and you
> never have to know.  I'd just source a script that scans all of my
> incoming folders (especially since they're named to be easy to recognize)
> and let it do the work.

Not too bad an idea, though I'm not sure whether I really want to name my list
folders with the list-post-address. Not really actually. Me thinks it's easier
to use a line like the first of those 3 I gave, for each list.

Extra work is required for list administrative emails, fortunately that doesn't
happen too often. I much prefer listname-request@domain addresses over
majordomo@domain for this reason (covered by the first pattern already), but
somehow I don't think people will ditch theit 'domos for this reason...

> % One could use an fcc-save-hook for each list, which is a pain, and
> % the patterns become humangous fast.
> 
> Not a problem.

No, not for mutt, but for me, as I have to maintain them, which costs time. On
the other hand, perhaps it would be better to shift the problem towards
procmail, for which I maintain patterns anyway.

Thanks all for the suggestions!

Volker

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Volker Kuhlmann, list0570 at paradise dot net dot nz
http://volker.orcon.net.nz/

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