On Sun, May 13, 2001 at 07:40:12AM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
> Using a large mallet, Horace G. Friend III whacked out:
>
> I wrote:
>
> > > Outblaze is a "third party email outsourcer".
>
> > By "third party email outsourcer", do you mean it acts as a relay for
> > selected clients such as mail.com? Including spammer's perhaps?
>
> See http://www.cp.net or http://www.outblaze.com
>
> Such firms take over the hassles of running mailservers for portals and other
> sites which may not have the expertise / infrastructure to do so.
>
> They recently took over mail.com and its dozens of vanity webmail domains
> > Aren't "legit mail" supposed to have matching forward and reverse DNS to
> > avoid having it thought of (or classified) as spam mail?
>
> Definitely not.
>
I read from the RedHat Sendmail HOWTO that the forward and reverse DNS
"should" match. This became necessary due to the proliferation of spam
mails on the Net.
> > 1. complain to iname.net regarding the matter or
> > 2. stop using mail.com
> > One last thing, do you know of any "clean" email forwarding service?
>
> They are all clean. If you mean "spam free" see https://stop.mail-abuse.org -
> it'll cost you though.
>
I guess by clean, I meant spam free.
Honestly, I'm not looking for a 100% spam-free environment because
that's next to impossible without blocking other legit mail.
I don't even care if outblaze.com takes over all the mail servers in
the world.
What get's my goat is that someone (and outblaze.com tops the list)
intercepts mails and/or pretends to be someone else. Here is the header
from the Java Developer Connection Newsletter which I subscribe from.
It's even got a "Precedence: Junk" in it. Can you believe that?
I may be wrong because I'm totally unfamiliar with techniques used to
forge "this and that" in spam mails. So where do you folks think the
message below came from? sun.com or outblaze.com?
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun May 6 14:47:04 2001
Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Received: from localhost (IDENT:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [127.0.0.1])
by localhost.localdomain (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f466l3g08310
for <hgf3@localhost>; Sun, 6 May 2001 14:47:03 +0800
Received: from POP3.skyinet.net [206.101.197.21]
by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.5.0)
for hgf3@localhost (single-drop); Sun, 06 May 2001 14:47:03 +0800 (PHT)
Received: from mx.skyinet.net (int2-mx.skyinet.net [202.78.88.137])
by pop3.skyinet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92D8E281E8
for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sat, 5 May 2001 15:14:27 +0800 (PHT)
Received: from smv19.iname.net (lmtp08.iname.net [165.251.8.81])
by mx.skyinet.net (Postfix) with SMTP id E4E011B304
for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sat, 5 May 2001 15:14:22 +0800 (PHT)
Received: from spf8.us4.outblaze.com (205-158-62-35.outblaze.com [205.158.62.35] (may
be forged))
by smv19.iname.net (8.9.3/8.9.1SMV2) with ESMTP id DAA20037
for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent by <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
Sat, 5 May 2001 03:14:19 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from hermes.java.sun.com (hermes.java.sun.com [204.160.241.85])
by spf8.us4.outblaze.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f457EHC16692
for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sat, 5 May 2001 07:14:17 GMT
Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 00:14:18 PDT
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: JDC.C&[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: JDC C&E Technologies Bulletin - May 4, 2001
Precedence: junk
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