On Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 11:03:14PM +0800, Horace G. Friend III wrote:
>On Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 01:58:08PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
>> Horace G. Friend III proclaimed on mutt-users that: 
>> 
>> > The original message was received at Mon, 2 Apr 2001 15:50:52 +0800
>> > >from hgf3@localhost
>> >    ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >     (reason: 553 sorry, your sender is not liked (#5.7.1))
>> >    ----- Transcript of session follows -----
>> > ... while talking to max.tat.physik.uni-tuebingen.de.:
>> > >>> MAIL From:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > <<< 553 sorry, your sender is not liked (#5.7.1)
>> > 501 5.6.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Data format error
>>  
>>  If kde.org is blocking mail.com, what can we (or mutt) do?
>> 
>> > What am I doing wrong here? I have the set and unset the "envelope_from"
>> > parameter but the list-maintainer still rejects my mail.
>>  
>
>Now I get it. And I thought this was a mutt or mail system config
>problem. This thing also happened to me at the redhat-install-list.
>Believe it or not, even mail.com rejects mails that I send from my pc
>addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>I've been using [EMAIL PROTECTED] (my virtual email address) because it's
>practical and functional.

<opinion>
Barely.  Maybe they've gotten better within the last few months, but
my experience has been that they're about as bad as America Off Line.
</opinion>

My guess is that the IP address block from which you're sending is on
the <a href="http://www.mail-abuse.org./dul/">DUL</a>, or in one of
the other MAPS or ORBS lists.  In this case, your only recourse may be
to relay through your ISP's mail server.  For Sendmail, this is the S
definition (the "DS" line).  For other MTAs, I can't much help you.

>In the off-chance that mail.com has tainted it's reputation (and the

One, hopefully small, note: in English, the third person gender
neutral possessive pronoun has no apostrophe; quirky, but true.  What
is quoted here could be expanded to "it is," "it was," "it has," or
similar.

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