Hello,

cFischer wrote on Wed, May 03 2000 08:54:36:

> procmail can be installed, if i recall this right, without
> priviledges, sgid mail and suid root.  it drops priviledges as soon
> as it knows who's recipe is running and the neccessary locks are in
> place.

Yeah, some people also told this but I wondered how does procmail
move the mails without having privileges? To clarify it: At my
University they installed mutt (kindly) but there I cannot move nor
delete mails from /var/something/mail/$user, because mutt_dotlock
doesn't have privileges as it should. And I didn't ask the sysadmin
there to install it the right way (maybe I will sometime). And there I
have no procmail :( so I wondered how it would behave, if I would
install it in ~/bin, maybe I try sometime :).

> to...  guess what?  it's called ifile (by jason rennie).  everybody
> who is in control over his email-setup should know this problem.  it
> uses a simple, but efficient, and not based on string search,
> algorithm from the fields of machine learning.  applied to email
> messages it can automatically file them where the user him/herself
> would have put them.  you can train the system any time by supplying
> the correct answer to live samples and you will never have to think
> about matching regular expressions.

I never heard about it but it sounds interesting. 
Learn your computer where it should put your mails. :-)

[...]
> anyway, would you kindly emit a few lines about qmail and it's special
> virtues compared to sendmail?  yes i know this is mutt-users, but general
> topics have to be considered, right?

As some people already pointed out in another thread, it is (or at
least was for me) easy to install and to setup. D.J.Bernstein included
all the important things in his faq and more info can you find at
http://www.qmail.org or D.J.B's page at http://cr.yp.to
It's supposed to be fast, lightweighted (see the sites above) and
it has some nice features, e.g. user mailing lists by just creating a
.qmail-list file with the necessary addresses in it and send mail to
`[EMAIL PROTECTED]'. Additionally it allows to deliver mails
into maildirs, i.e. one file per message and more reliable in
delivering via nfs. Not to forget, that its primary goal is security.
There are a lot of useful tools for it, to make it easy to migrate
from sendmail to qmail, e.g. dot-forward, to make use of a users
.forward file, fastforward to use sendmails /etc/aliases etc.
There also went some information about it over this list, just look
for the messasges in the archive.

Regards, Stefan.

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