On 01/12/2010 16:01, Dave Rolsky wrote:
On Wed, 1 Dec 2010, Lyle wrote:
On 01/12/2010 07:37, Bill Ward wrote:
I think Perl 6 may be the death of Perl.
I think it's Perl's last hope. I think minds and time spent on slow
Perl 6 ish things like Moose for Perl 5 will be the death of Perl.
If _you_ think Perl 6 is Perl's last hope, than I strongly encourage
you to get involved, but please don't shit on other people's work.
I wasn't *shitting* as you put it, on other peoples work. At least no
more so than Bill's original comment about Perl 6. I expressed my
opinion only and should be free to do so.
Don't take things so personally. I haven't seen moose bring any new
programmers to Perl; I've only seen excitement about it from some Perl 5
developers, I've seen it cause frustrations for others. The ones I've
seen excited about it have mostly been so due to the belief that it's a
step towards Perl 6, allowing them to learn some Perl 6 in advance.
Note the language again there, I said "I've only seen", not "there
aren't any". I'm not one to blindly follow popular opinions. I can talk
from my own experiences and perceptions only. For me Moose is a real
pain, mostly due to performance and Octavian's point:
- Another thing that hurts in Perl and which is also a reason why many
programmers don't like Perl is that it is not possible to install an
application to a server by just uploading the files there and give some
permissions, especially if that app uses XS, and not everyone has access to a
shell;
Lyle
