On Wed, 2010-08-25 at 01:13 +0200, nadim khemir wrote:

> ...you mails get more and more fuzzy and goalless.

Well, I'm sorry to see that; I thought I'd been clear. I feel it's
better to give more detail, which you're welcome to ignore; rather than
less, inviting you to ignore the whole request as incomplete. I believe
my goals are fairly well defined. I apologize for any lack and stand
ready to make it good. 


> So, what is it you want from us? 

I plan to start a project to generate module name suggestions by
comparing PODs. I'd appreciate any suggestions for what I might name
that project. 

I also have underway a testing framework for which I have no good name.
I'd appreciate any suggestions for naming it. 

In both cases, I've searched (without result) for existing projects that
mine might duplicate. If I've missed something (as I did in the case of
the orthogonal file manager), I'd be very grateful to find out. 


> Go ahead, deliver a badly thought, badly named module. 

Sorry; I'd rather not; especially if you will ask me afterward why I
didn't ask first. The last time I began a project without first
soliciting comment on its name, I ran into later difficulties that
stalled development for weeks. (I'm happy to say that the project is now
in release.) My first choice was very bad. 

Conversely, I have been planning and working for months on an orthogonal
file manager. I did not know what to call it; I was totally ignorant of
the general class. Posting here led me to explore existing tools of
great potential; and to abandon a flimsy shadow of a crippled duplicate.
I have saved thousands of hours of foolish effort; I'm extremely
grateful. 

I realize there is a school of thought in which authors choose Perl
project names without consultation. In the face of repeated, loud
exhortations to consult, I am uneasy joining this school. 

However, I ask you to notice (in the project I currently offer to
criticism) I intend to assist authors, such as myself, with automated
suggestions we can bring with us to the consultation. This will not
usurp the role of those who guide but may lessen the fuzziness of
requests for guidance. 


> Don't patronize with whatever knowledge you have gleaned. 

I'm sorry you feel patronized. I don't think I wrote anything that does
not explain what I have done, what I intend to do, or why. I do not
pretend to educate. 

You may find the register in which I write overly formal. I don't wish
to insult anyone who may be more comfortable writing in another style. I
struggle to write clearly and accurately. I'm aware that my words here
are immutable and I cannot suffer poor grammar to represent myself.  


> Come with reasonable mails or expect someone to tell you to bugger off!

I have spent nearly two hours on this message, ruthlessly extracting
every word that does not pay its freight. The result may not be
reasonable. But I cannot afford more time; nor would I risk less. 

I have come to expect certain types of remark. Absent clear suggestions
for improvement, I regret that I cannot act upon them. 

It's possible that you consider discussions of proposed modules off
topic on this list. Yet multiple sources point to the list as a place
for these discussions. I'd greatly appreciate clarifications. 

--
-Xiong


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