On Tue, 21 Dec 2004, Ray Cole wrote:

> Ugh.  I give :-)

> I completely erase any sign of autoconf, automake, aclocal, and m4 from my 
> system.  I then installed the following from RedHat 9's distribution:
> 
>   autoconf-2.57-3.noarch.rpm
>   automake-1.6.3-5.noarch.rpm

        Well, automake 1.6.3 is too old - the minimum version was bumped up
        to 1.7 a while back.

>   gtk+-devel-1.2.10-25.i386.rpm
>   gtk2-devel-2.2.1-4.i386.rpm
>   m4-1.4.1-11.i386.rpm
>   SDL-devel-1.2.5-3.i386.rpm
>   
> After all of that I now get:
> 
>    configure.ac:71: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_PROG_LIBTOOL

        Hmmm, that would seem to point at libtool not being installed _or_
        to old

> I've never had so much trouble getting something to install before.  Been 
> using Linux for 5 or so years now, but this autoconf stuff seems to be 

        But have you re-installed the system during that time? :)  RH9 is 
        getting a bit old - automake 1.6.3 for example is going _way_ back...

        It's the mixing-in/intertwining the older system's stuff with the
        newer versions that current software needs.  I had a similar type of
        problem when trying to get the gtk/glib 1.2.10 stuff to build on OS/X
        a year or so ago - the problem then was that autoconf was too _new_
        and didn't like the old configure.in and automake stuff that gtk/glib
        used (the newer gtk2/glib2 was a breeze since it uses newer autoconf
        files).

> really problematic from what I can tell :-)

        But I have 4 or 5 different OSs (including OS/X, a niche/old BSD
        variant, FreeBSD, and two or three linux distributions) and have had
        _none_ of the problems you've encountered - it's not any magic on my
        part that I can tell, the stuff "just works".  Lucky I guess :)

> I had tried autoconf-2.53-8 and it seemed to get further than 2.57, but I 
> received a ton of errors later on and noticed a message saying I needed at 
> least 2.57, but at least I didn't get this AC_DEFINE message :-)

        One thing to be mindful of - did you toast/rm any "autom4te.cache"
        and/or "config.cache" directories/files?  Autoconf creates a "cache"
        of information when it runs - and having an old cache directory or
        file around _will_ cause grief if you use a different version of
        autoconf/automake!  Gotten bit a few times by that myself - and I
        think that might have contributed to 'autoreconf -i' not working
        correctly for you.

        "autoreconf -i" should work fine - but with all the versions of
        auto* that have been rotated thru the system I think the 'cache'
        directory/file may have been causing the problems.  Try removing
        the config.cache or autom4te.cache directory and run ./autogen.sh -
        should work fine.

        I see from your followup that you've achieved a degree of success - 
        you're just in time for the daily cvs update festival, lots of work
        in progress these days :)

        Cheers,
        Steven Schultz



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