On 4 Jan 2004, Florin Andrei wrote:

> MPEG2 without B frames makes some DVD players choke. The default

        What player is so braindamaged and standards non-compliant as to
        choke on an *optional* part of the MPEG-2 specs?   (B frames are 
        optional).

        Are you sure that was the cause or was it pusing the bitrate too high
        and generating streams out of spec on the peaks?   As I recall the
        stuttering was caused by -b 9000.  That can work with commercial
        pressed DVDs but some players have problems with RECORDABLE media
        at high bitrates due to the lesser reflectivity of the media.

> What would be the new -R setting to imitate the old behaviour? Would it
> be "-R 2"?

        Yep, that's the old behaviour.   

        I have a hunch that any problems with -R 0 are due to other factors
        and not the lack of B frames.   

        Hmmm - having said all that it might be that DPME (Dual Prime Motion
        Estimation) might be a possible  problem area - can't recall if that was
        required or not.   It is possible to have no B frames and not use
        DPME (but no B frames are a requirement to use DPME - at least at
        [EMAIL PROTECTED]).   If anything I'd have expected an old portable (Audiovox)
        to have a problem with no B frame based SVCD and it sailed right thru.

        Steven Schultz



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