On Wed, 26 Nov 2003, Richard Ellis wrote:

> I've seen that same 10.08Mbps maximum upper limit for DVD's as well. 

        I haven't seen any that come even close to the upper limit.
        Perhaps one of the "Superbits" titles would be worth a look,
        they leave out all the extras (additional audio tracks, special
        features, etc) to make room for video bits.

> My understanding was that to properly comply with the DVD
> consortium's rules, a player had be able to sustain that level of
> read speed from the DVD platter no matter what.

        And of course all manufacturers adhere completely to the standards
        when they're trying to churn out $49 DVD players :-)

        Apple's documentatin for DVD Studio Pro has repeated cautions about
        setting the rate too high.   

        In practice even with a rate limit of 8500 guess what?  The DVDs
        usually end up around 6000 to 6400 - much depends on the material,
        the options used (turning off B frames, eliminating single coefficients,
        and so on all work to lower the bit rate to well under the maximum).

        Cheers,
        Steven Schultz



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