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On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 08:54, Bernhard Praschinger wrote:
> > http://florin.myip.org/debug/
> 250MB's are a bit big for a ISDN connection, but the first 10 fields (as
> small jpegs) would be very interresting.

I added the fields/ directory to the link above, which contains the
requested fields.

BTW, here's what happened when i extracted the fields:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] work]$ lav2yuv -f 10 yose.avi | y4mtoppm | pnmsplit -
pnm/image%d.pnm
pnmsplit: WRITING pnm/image0.pnm
 
   INFO: [lav2yuv] DV frame 0   len 120000
   INFO: [y4mtoppm] input stream parameters:
   INFO: [y4mtoppm] <<<  frame size:  720x480 pixels (518400 bytes)
   INFO: [y4mtoppm] <<<  frame rate:  30000/1001 fps (~29.970030)
   INFO: [y4mtoppm] <<<   interlace:  bottom-field-first
   INFO: [y4mtoppm] <<<sample aspect ratio:  10:11
   INFO: [lav2yuv] DV frame 1   len 120000

That confirms my feeling that it's a bottom-first stream.

> > It seems like it's a "bottom first" video stream (see image0 and
> > image1), but otherwise it's ok. I checked it out for the next thousand
> > of frames or so, the order of the fields is fine, there's no back and
> > forth movement, it's all smooth and as it should be.
> Did you 

?

> Test it with CD-RW and SVCD format. You should have the same problem
> there. 

Ok then. Based on the principle "no one is going to help me if i'm not
helping myself a little bit", i did the following:

I took only the first AVI file in the DV directory, which has approx 2
minutes worth of video (out of the total of 60 minutes).
I converted only that file to DVD and SVCD, in order to speed up the
process.

I created three different DVDs:
- default field order settings (no -z)
- using -z t
- using -z b
I then created three different SVCDs:
- default field order settings (no -z)
- using -z t
- using -z b

I then went to a local computer/hardware store and pretended i was
choosing a DVD player by testing it with "home-made DVDs". :-) I think i
tried out like 10 different DVD players, of about 4 different brands
(Panasonic, Akai, Hitachi, and some underdog type of company that i
don't remember).

The results were identical no matter which DVD player, no matter whether
it was DVD or SVCD:
- all disks created with "-z b" were perfect
- all other disks experienced juddering

The weird thing is, one year ago i created quite a few SVCDs, using same
parameters (i came up long time ago with some SVCD scripts that i keep
using ever since) and those disks have no juddering!

Obviously, something changed since last summer. But what?

-- 
Florin Andrei

http://florin.myip.org/



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