On Mon, Feb 10, 2003 at 08:45:41PM -0500, Matto Marjanovic wrote:
> 
> "Your donation of only 5 dollars a week, less than the price of a 
>  double-latte, will give dominance-bit-preserving assistance to these
>  poor fields.  Let the world know that apathy is not the answer.
>  Send us money now!"
> 
> Those innocent fields are getting hopelessly mangled as we stand idly by.

:-)

> That is awesome; I'm glad to see that the (DirectFB guys) are trying to
>  get it right.

Very much so!  I don't think there is any other video card/device
driver combination that does as perfect a job on Linux at properly
replicating the properies of television broadcast as DirectFB and the
G400 are doing.  It's a shame considering the G400 is out of
production now and any new cards with TV-Out are just plain
undocumented due to the "copyright consortium" tying the hands of the
hardware/driver manufacturers.  ~sigh~

> (Odd, even, flat, spongy?  Just use "top/bottom" or "upper/lower" and 
>  everyone will agree and understand.

Sure.  Top/bottom it is then.

>  I don't know why anyone refers
>  to odd/even fields (except for those video engineers working in their
>  specific domain where it is well-defined).)

Probably where I got it from.  Not me being the engineer but from
somebody who does work in that domain.

> Lucky you, indeed!

Well, yes, lucky to a degree, but moreso that it's just the right
thing to do to deliver consistent results when the user does not
request a preference.  When not asked otherwise, delivering top field
first makes sense.

> The field dominance is actually completely arbitrary when grabbing from
>  an analog source; it is set by the grabber --- and that would be you and
>  lavrec.

Can also be set by the driver.  bttv, I have heard, will only deliver
top-field-first.

>  Luckily for you, lavrec defaults to top-field-first.

Indeed.  But like I said, it's just the right thing to do.

>  If lavrec
>  has been your only source of digital video,

Nope, mp1e on bttv prior to lavrec and still currently when I need to
grab two programs simultaneously.

>  the odds would be *really*
>  good that all of your video is top-field-first.

Right.  I agree completely.

> DV, on the other hand, is always bottom-field-first.(*)

Interesting.

b.

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Brian J. Murrell

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