On Wed, 11 Dec 2002, Matti Haveri wrote:

> Selva Nair:
> 
> >  Well, if you are targetting a particular player it makes sense to use
> >  the maximum supported bit rate.  My Pioneer HTD510 is quite linient when
> >  it comes to VCD/SVCD playback (it even plays 720x480 or 720x576 mpegs
> >  burned as an SVCD), but it can't handle more than 3000kb/s muxed rate. I
> >  have a philips 623 player that I am yet to stress test, but I know that
> >  2000kb/s VCD is very jerky on it. With this and simpilar philips players
> >  this is not a concern as it can play almost all kinds of mpeg1/mpeg2
> >  files simply burned on to a ISO data track on a CD-R -- I have tried
> >  peak bit rates up to 6000kb/s.
> 
> My Pioneer 444 PAL DVD player plays (X)SVCDs at 480x576, 352x576, 
> 720x576 and even a VCD-like 352x288 MPEG2 with both 44.1 and 48 kHz 
> audio from about 1455-2500 kb/s.
> 
> But if I go above 2500 kb/s the playback always stutters no matter 
> what I do (mplex with various -r values, for example).
> 
> Is this just a limitation of the player or is there any trick that 
> can enable 3000-5000 kb/s playback?

I dont know for sure, but it appears that a lot of players out there max
out at around 2700-2800 kb/sec ie at ~2x CD speed. It could be that the CD
drive in these players cannot read at a higher speed or it could be a
firmware limitation. In the case of philips 623 I mentioned above, I know
it can read a CD-R at 4x or may be even faster as it plays a 6000kb/s
mpeg2 file pretty smooth. Nevertheless it stammers with a 2000kb/s VCD. So
I tend to think that player limitations are more often determined by the
built-in software rather than the drive hardware. But I could be wrong as
my Pioneer player is an old model -- may be it simply cant read CDs faster
than ~2x.

Sorry I dont know how to make these players handle higher bit rates.

Selva



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