Tomas, I don't understand.
If I chroot then I can't do much at all right?
  Unless I replicate/link like the entire system, minus login.

su/wheel group/sudo doesn't prevent simple running of login and typing the
root password, right?

Am I missing something?
Maybe that ssh-only access to myself is good enough?
  Once I am me on the machine, there's no need for an obstacle to be root?
 And then su from there to root?
 I don't need to ssh as root?

But if I allow others to ssh in, and don't limit them with chroot,
then a password is needed. They won't be able to su/sudo, but they can still
login.
Right? So I'm back to the earlier point.

Thanks,
 - Jay

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> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 13:11:44 +0300
> Subject: Re: password-less console-only access and ssh remote access?
> From: tomas.bod...@gmail.com
> To: jay.kr...@cornell.edu
> CC: bret.lamb...@gmail.com; misc@openbsd.org
>
> On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 1:01 PM, Jay K  wrote:
> >> You can get almost the same thing by setting "PasswordAuthentication" to
> > "no"
> >> in your sshd_config file, and hand out empty or ridiculously simple
> > passwords
> >> for the console (honestly, who would forget "yermomsawhore" as a
> > password?).
> >
> >
> > How do I limit their use to the console?
> >
> > If say I ssh in as non-root and then login root?
>
> You can chroot those logins and why they need root? You don't need to
> allow use of su for them, they don't need to be in wheel group and you
> can set in sudo only 'must need' apps for them.
>
> >
> > ssh surely isn't the sole gatekeeper for login?
> >
> >  (Granted, I am NOT running ftpd or telnetd; though
> >
> >  at some point I'd like smbd/nfsd, hopefully
> >
> >  both secure and convenient, hopefully using ssh somehow...).
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >  - Jay

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