It's very hard to fix the indenting when you're copying code from a
web forum/email archive/whatnot that mangled it. Been there done that.
Pythons behavior in this regard makes it very aggravating to work with
as a newcomer, and for many people who are a little suspicious of the
whole whitespace thing, when your first taste of the language is hours
spent fixing the whitespace, you aren't inclined to use it any more
than necessary.
On Dec 19, 2009, at 9:21 AM, Darrin Chandler
<dwchand...@stilyagin.com> wrote:
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 02:38:20PM +0100, Claudio Jeker wrote:
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 06:17:50AM -0700, Darrin Chandler wrote:
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 01:54:54PM +0100, ropers wrote:
2009/12/19 Henning Brauer <lists-open...@bsws.de>:
any excuse to not know python is a good and valid one. any.
If you have the time, I'd love to hear you elaborate. So far most
people whose opinion I value have only said good things about
Python.
You're the first person whose opinion I respect to go against that.
You just need to talk to more people, then. Lots of people don't
like
Python. Same for Perl, Ruby, or anything else. I've heard several
devs
say they don't like Python but I have yet to hear any of them
actually
give a reason. Ask them why they don't like C++ and you get a big
list
of everything that's wrong with it. Ask about Python and you get "it
sucks" or "it's awful" or something. So I think it's just a matter
of
taste.
Or maybe Henning has actual reasons. I haven't heard him talk about
Python before so I don't know. Henning?
Ugh, a programming language where you can't copy paste from xterm
to xterm
without fucking up the program is just way to much pain to work on.
The indenting of code is an optical help but should not change the
behaviour of the program. For me it is important to be able to
write code
with style(9) in mind (and I think most other BSD developpers think
similar because our code all looks similar).
I have often done copy/paste with Python code between xterms. Of
course
you must fix indenting. If you naively copy/paste C you will also have
issues of syntax and meaning, but if you are so used to looking at C
code that the meaning in the new context is immediately obvious
without
thinking then you will not notice. Instead you just fix/adjust it in
place and move on.
Some people will never like indent having meaning. But there is
value in
having an 'else' that *looks* like it belongs with an 'if' actually
belong to that 'if', *because* it looks like it does. You don't ever
have to like Python, but indenting to make blocks is perfectly
cromulent. It's not a deficiency, it's just different.
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