ok, I have to apologise. I don't mean to be unpolite but, please understand me:
I don't think there exists another OS as OpenBSD. It's unique. I am afraid that the more popular it will become, the more thingies new users will ask for. And complication leads to... well, see linux and other OS. That's why I got so nervous when I saw people asking for webcam support. I love OpenBSD because it is exactly what I would like to see from an OS. And I think there are many other things that need support, like ACPI. It's not trivial and it's only partially supported by other OS. That's all. Sorry about that and... cheers Pau 2008/3/24, Pau Amaro-Seoane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > Your response was both rude and non-productive and contributed nothing to > > the discussion accept an arrogant antiquated attitude. Your lame attempt > to > > describe why adding such a driver would be a security risk was best a > terse > > flimflam shot from the hip in response to a good question. No one asked > you > > to like it or about your cockhammer notion of what should or shouldn't be > > done on the OS. > > > I think you don't understand what obsd is about > > > > > > Write the application yourself is a good start though I will agree with > > that, that's kind of what they were discussing in the thread untill you > > tried to mute it with your red-harring argument which basically says OBSD > > should be some sort of survial kit for animals in the wilderness, take > only > > what you need to survive and make sure you bring your book on which > > plantlife to eat in south america. > > > quite, you must be really desperate to be so aggressive > > > > > > > And by the way if you have ever used a webcam now days they are no longer > > pixilated... You must still be living in 1998. Of course you are a "real" > > computer user and real computer users don't need webcams because they only > > need packet filter, cvs, and code auditing. OBSD also has a role as a > > desktop system > > > I have had peecees with linux STOP I have had a mac STOP I gave it > back STOP I am exclusively (as in "no linux, no windows") using obsd > as a desktop on a laptop STOP webcams are as useful as automatic > chewing-gum machines FULL STOP > > Before you carry on making use of the two adjectives you know (lame > and rude), please be so kind as to pretend that you do not exist. > > > Pau > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > Pau Amaro-Seoane > > Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 1:52 PM > > To: Unix Fan > > Cc: misc@openbsd.org > > Subject: Re: PC Camera? > > > > who cares about web cams? What's so important in looking at a pixeled, > > almost-static face? > > > > I have still not understood what they are good for. > > > > I do understand what pf good for is. > > > > I do understand what a public, anonymous CVS server good for is > > > > I do understand what security and code auditing good for are > > > > I do understand how important it is for me that things do not break > > > > Do not distract the developers. > > > > If you want webcam support, or skype or things like that run windows or > > linux (almost synonims nowadays, unfortunately). > > > > Or write the applications by yourself. > > > > 23 Mar 2008 16:56:16 -0700, Unix Fan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > There is a USB standard for USB Cameras among other video devices... > It's > > called "USB Video Device Class". > > > > > > > > > > > > The specific is available to download... if anyone feels brave enough > > > to write a driver for "UVC" class devices... ;) > > > > > > > > > > > > @Sunnz, Unsupported USB devices always attach to "ugen", read the > > > manual page.... then you'll realize how silly you are.. ;) > > > > > > > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_video_device_class > > > > > > > > > > > > This seems to be a driver for: > > > > > > OpenSolaris: > > > http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/device_drivers/projects/usb/uv > > > c/ > > > > > > Linux: http://linux-uvc.berlios.de/ > > > > > > Mac OSX.. > > > > > > Microsoft's Vista - Which seems to require all vendors implement the > > standard.. > > > > > > ...And Sony's Playstation 3. > > > > > > > > > > > > So who's working on OpenBSD's implementation? get busy!! :D :D :D > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Nix Fan.
