On Wednesday 27 February 2008, Edd Barrett wrote:
> I can find the part numbers of just about every component inside a
> u10, but not the u10 itself.
>
> This is the cheapest and most common system from sun containing the
> creator3d card:
>
> http://sunsolve.sun.com/handbook_pub/validateUser.do?printFriendly=ye
>s&target=Systems/U10/U10
>

Sorry about the short/terse message --my hands were sore yesterday. When 
there is a need for hardware, it's always best to *also* give details 
like suitable part numbers as well as the "brand name" of the given 
product. Some people mentally map brand names, while others mentally 
map product names... --You'd be surprised how much stuff is sitting in 
the garages, basements and closets of OpenBSD users. :-)

Keeping track of it all is a pain.

I'll see what I can dig up. My fear is the brand name "Creator3D" is 
used on multiple products with vastly differing hardware. I might have 
one (or more) of them here collecting dust. Most of my sun hadware is 
SS20 and U2 (with one U60 for kicks), but I have lots of them and 
plenty of spare parts.

I *think* the "Creator3D" was also available on the Ultra2 but without a 
part number to reference, it's tough to say it's the same thing as the 
Ultra10 version. I want to think there were both PCI and SBUS versions 
which carried that name...

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(after some digging)

Sorry for the resend Edd, and I've cc'd oga@ and misc@ on this one.

Below is what I found on sunsolve and it seems I was right about 
the "Creator" brand name. Note, there are some dupes in the list below 
and I've forgotten the name of the interface Sun used on the Ultra-2 
for video/graphics but it's a SBUS based system. Also, I've never owned 
a Ultra-30 (and I'm too lazy to look it up) but I'm pretty sure it is a 
PCI based machine.

Ultra 2 (SBUS)
http://sunsolve.sun.com/handbook_pub/validateUser.do?target=Systems/U2/components
3651A   501-2634        Creator Series 1 (FFB)
X3652A  501-3129        Creator3D Series 1 (FFB) 24-Bit Frame Buffer
X3653A  501-4127  Buy   Creator Series 1 (FFB) 24-Bit Frame Buffer
X3657A  501-4173        Creator3D Series 2 (FFB2) 24-Bit Frame Buffer
X3661A  501-4790        Creator3D Series 3 (FFB2+) 24-Bit Frame Buffer
X3671A  501-4790        Creator3D Series 3 (FFB2+) 24-Bit Frame Buffer
X3675A  501-4173        Creator3D Series 2 (FFB2) 24-Bit Frame Buffer

Ultra 10 (PCI)
http://sunsolve.sun.com/handbook_pub/validateUser.do?target=Systems/U10/components
X3662A  501-4789        Creator Series 3 (FFB2+)
X3663A  501-5690  Buy   Creator3D Series 3 (FFB2+)
X3670A  501-5690  Buy   Creator3D Series 3 (FFB2+)
X3672A  501-4789        Creator Series 3 (FFB2+)

Ultra 30 (PCI)
http://sunsolve.sun.com/handbook_pub/validateUser.do?target=Systems/U30/components
X3658A  501-4174        Creator Series 2 (FFB2)
X3659A  501-4172        Creator3D Series 2 (FFB2)
X3662A  501-4789        Creator Series 3 (FFB2+)
X3663A  501-5690  Buy   Creator3D Series 3 (FFB2+)

Ultra 60 (PCI)
http://sunsolve.sun.com/handbook_pub/validateUser.do?target=Systems/U60/components
X3658A  501-4174        Creator Series 2 (FFB2)
X3659A  501-4172        Creator3D Series 2 (FFB2)
X3662A  501-4789        Creator Series 3 (FFB2+)
X3663A  501-5690  Buy   Creator3D Series 3 (FFB2+)
X3670A  501-5690  Buy   Creator3D Series 3 (FFB2+)
X3672A  501-4789        Creator Series 3 (FFB2+)


Please let me know which of the above fits your requirements, and I'll 
see what I have over here.

I know Edd is in the UK, but I'm not sure where oga@ is located?

I'm guessing at least one for oga@ is required, but getting a second one 
to Edd to help with testing might also be desirable.

(and lastly for the peanut gallery on misc@, sending hardware to devs is 
one of the best ways you can say "thank you" for all the cool code you 
give us)

Kind Regards,
JCR

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