On Fri, Jan 04, 2008 at 12:48:57PM +1100, Ioan Nemes wrote:
> > Ask yourself this question.  Do you really believe that someone who
> > sells a product which was developed within the lawful frame work is
> > unethical?
> 
> You confusing the issue!  The software market - where you sell your product
> (i.e., software) is unethical,
> distorted and manipulated, and not by the ethical software crafters!  A
> `win-win` case?  No, I don't think
> so, it smells like a Fridmanite axiom to me.

Many things sold by big business in the business market place have some
ethical problems.  For example, I personally don't shop at WallMart and
avoid as much as possible buying things from China.  However, I was
unable to find a new MB that was NOT made in China.  The only thing good
about WallMart is that in most small towns it promts the town to remove
parking meeters downtown.

Don't confuse "legal" with "ethical".  They are, unfortunatly, totally
distinct.  Many ethical things are legal and many legal things are
ethical but there are a times when an ethical act may be illegal and
there are many many times when an unethical act is legal.  

An individual who goes into the widget-invention business to put food on
the table is not inherently unethical if the widget in question is a
piece of software.  If the widge were a fax machine, I could sit down in
a machine shop and make an exact physical replica but unless I can read
the chips I can't duplicate the software on those chips that make the
fax machine anything more than a paperweight.  It is this distinction
which generates some philisophical debate.  Just as the phyicality of
the fax machine is "open source" where I could improve on it, I couldn't
then sell my improved version due to a likely patent on that model of
fax machine unless I did something totally new, patented it myself, and
made my fax machine look nothing like its inspiration.  Sure, as the
designer of a new-and-better fax machine, it would be nice to have the
source for those chips, the company doesn't have any incentive for
giving me that source even if it came with a license clause that forbade
distributing modified versions.  I don't see, though, how the company's
refusal to give me the source for the fax machine software is unethical.

Dou  Sure, as the designer of a new-and-better fax machine, it would be
nice to have the source for those chips, the company doesn't have any
incentive for giving me that source even if it came with a license
clause that forbade distributing modified versions.  I don't see,
though, how the company's refusal to give me the source for the fax
machine software is unethical.

Doug.

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