On Dec 16, 2007, at 6:27 PM, David H. Lynch Jr. wrote:

William Boshuck wrote:
On Sun, Dec 16, 2007 at 05:24:48PM -0500, David H. Lynch Jr. wrote:

Ray Percival wrote:

  [quoting and excerpt from  Theo's log message in (e.g.):
   http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/etc/Attic/ipf.rules]
    ...

But software which OpenBSD uses and redistributes must be free to all
(be they people or companies), for any purpose they wish to use it,
including modification, use, peeing on, or even integration into baby
mulching machines or atomic bombs to be dropped on Australia.
Theo [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list, May 29, 2001

That's fine, it is a statement of values and principals, that is exactly what I was looking for - something that is conspicuously absent from the
OpenBSD web site.


Apart from the rhetorical flourish at the end,
that's in the second item in the list near the
top of http://www.openbsd.org/goals.html.  (The
"ANY PURPOSE" part goes way back, to the summer
of '97.)

Not to mention policy.html.

the statements are different. Unless I am to interpret we want to make
available source code,
as equivalent to Software which openbsd uses and distrubutes must be
free to all.

Must is significantly different from want
we want to make available source code is not the same as software which
openbsd uses and distributes.
Regardless, apply it to ports and remove non-free URL's.

WTF is a non-free URL? They come with licenses now? You kids and your wacky new ideas.

Trying to parse through the above gibberish the question remains is putting up a sign for a pub the same as serving drinks to somebody? Sure ports might contain some scripts and URLs for software with less permissive licenses. Who cares? No reasonable person would think of that as distribution. If somebody has found it useful enough to stick in there and some other people find it useful why should anybody care? Their business and we should just butt the fuck out. Code that is being distributed by OpenBSD meets higher standards. This is as it should be. This is as the people who build it and use it want it. Yeah, OK, our immortal souls are going to hell and we make the baby Jesus cry. Guess what? We don't give a shit. We're all adults and can figure out where these lines are without it being handed down from on high in every minor detail. So GTFO and go find a system that's orthodox enough to meet your high standards. We would rather have stuff that makes sense and works well. Wake me when gnewsense or whatever gets to that point.

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