On 10/31/07, Bob Beck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> * Nick Guenther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-10-31 08:40]:
> > On 10/31/07, Theo de Raadt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > > Obviously patches will be subject to peer review. Even if a patch isn't
> > > > approved, the coder should have learned something new and useful.
> > >
> > > Yeah, right.
> >
>
> > Or will the patches not be subject to peer review? Or are
> > you worried at who would pass for peer review getting overwhelmed by a
> > huge volume of poor quality patches?
>
>         Yes, and yes.
>
>         Basically look, when it comes to the kernel there are two
> types of student, the self taught, and the hopeless. While we
> will more than be willing to help people who take the initiative themselves
> to look for something and work on it. This takes a significant amount
> of our time and energy. A lot of it actually.  Yes, learning the kernel
> and how the basics work is a barrier to entry. It needs to be so, people
> without the motivation to get over that hump on their own will simply
> sap too much time from the people who have otherwise.
>
>         Basically I'm telling you, if you want to play in this area, you need
> to earn your stripes. *earn* - not have shown to you. Sorry if that
> sounds elitist, but that's the simple fact. Already overworked senior
> developers do not have time to spoon feed people who already
> demonstrate that they will not take the initiative to learn things on
> their own. Sorry, that's just the facts guys.

Thanks. *that's* clear. It's good to be elitist about code quality,
that's what attracts me to OpenBSD. I just didn't see the connection
right away.
Sorry for wasting your time but thanks for shining a light upon how it works.

-Nick

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