Virtualization seems to have a lot of security benefits. Rootkits can lie to 
DomU but not Dom0, and of course snapshotting, migration etc is *really* nice. 



Dom0 in OpenBSD in a current Xen implementation (with HVM) would be a dream. 
I'd switch wholesale, and buy a CD for every server (as I do now). But 
doubtless there are a whole host of issues, kernel, SMP, bootloaders (I found 
OpenBSDs bootloader to be superior to grub in Ubuntu 7.10, it detects media bay 
HDs, and the installer is fast, efficient, and doesn't crap out on certain 
video cards/monitors), an LVM, iSCSI support -- and I have no code to 
contribute, so I will merely remain hopeful without expectation. 



I tried NetBSD Xen, but it seemed the worst of both worlds. Pf circa 3.7, hacks 
for grub, old version of Xen (2.x series IIRC) without support for the most 
interesting features, not the same level of security focus, etc. 



So I just picked the best tool for the job. 



I'm happier our webservers are now on OpenBSD with CARP failover.



--

"Invincibility is in oneself, vulnerability in the opponent." -- Sun Tzu



-----Original Message-----

From: Luca Corti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 10:03:42 

To:ropers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Cc:Jeff Quast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, OpenBSD-Misc <misc@openbsd.org>,       Nick 
Guenther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Subject: Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but ..





On Tue, 2007-10-23 at 01:11 +0200, ropers wrote:

> unavoidable. The question is, is that a worthwhile trade-off? Is this

> a reason not to support Xen? Or should the user be given that option

> regardless of the inherent limitations and consequences?



A proper Dom0 port of XEN to OpenBSD would solve this by removing the

linux dependency. However this would probably require a significant

effort on OpenBSD side and a XEN Hypervisor code audit.



Also from earlier discussion on the list it seems this kind of

virtualization may impact on security, which is in direct contrast with

OpenBSD goals. Can someone elaborate more on this?



ciao



Luca


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