Intel integrated graphics card. Standard cheaper one found in laptops. Usually watch in mplayer, default settings. Occasionally, VLC, default settings. Of course, the intel cards don't have the same blob problems that the more expensive ones tend to. I don't know about your experiences comparing the watching of a movie changing between the nv and nvidia driver. Is this some videophile thing? Something that "certainly seemed" better, but wasn't actually much better if you didn't know which driver had played the movie?
Or perhaps you're being quite legitimate here. I just haven't heard of that problem before, it's always been about 3d acceleration. Either way, even if true, a minor case like that does not mean that OpenBSD is "suboptimal" at playing movies. Nonsense, bullshit and whathaveyou. I doubt the blobs play video better then their free brethren. Anyways, I see this degenerating into a videophile argument, which I really don't plan to take part in. Besides, people don't seem to care much about HD video at all, despite it being so superior to DVDs. As it's been repeated here, requirements for desktop systems vary. That, and watched video varies. For me, it's usually cartoons anime, and I'm sure the difference between Trigun on a blob and Trigun on a proper driver isn't going to be that impressively different, even if it were better for non-cartoons. On 10/11/07, Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 09:00:39PM -0400, Kevin Stam wrote: > > Aside from some typos, I'll have to dispute the inclusion of movie > watching > > and movie editing. Very much, actually. I've never had noticeably poorer > > > movie watching/viewing performance on OpenBSD as opposed to other > > distributions. (Gentoo is my other, and neither work better then the > other > > for movie watching.) > > > > Now, if we're talking about things that involve "3d acceleration", like > 3d > > games or 3d animation, then I'd agree with your statement. But > pretending > > that OpenBSD can't even play a decent movie or two is just FUD. > > > > I did say "may be suboptimal" which was my experience comparing the open > nv driver with the closed nVidia driver. > > Well, I haven't pulled Debian off my amd64 box with a nVidia EN7300GT > card to put OpenBSD on it. One reason for that is that I'm on dial's > and a reinstall of everything takes a few days. For that card, my > choice of drivers seems to be the xorg nv driver or the binary blob > nVidia driver as compiled by Debian in its non-free repository. I do > know that I get a much better image quality when watching DVDs with the > nVidia driver than with the nv driver. As I understand it, it is > because the nv driver doesn't use the hardware to do (some?) of the > conversion (mpeg, scaling, deinterlacing, whatever) when watching it > full screen at 1600 x 1200 @ 85Hz on a 21" CRT Intergraph, with VLC. > > So, if you've had great movie experiences with OpenBSD, what video card > do you use, what driver, at what resolution, full screen, deinterlaced > (blend)? > > > > > On 10/11/07, Douglas A. Tutty < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > I've been evaluating OpenBSD as a desktop system while learning about > it > > > on my lesser (older) hardware. I've learned a lot and will continue > to > > > learn about OpenBSD but I don't think it will work as my primary > > > desktop. > > > > > > Based on what I've learned here on Misc, I'd like to start a > discussion > > > about extending the answer to the OpenBSD FAQ # 1.10: "Can I use > OpenBSD > > > as a Desktop System?" While of course every potential new user has to > > > evaluate OpenBSD for themselves, we could and I believe we should > point > > > out some of the more common tripping points found by people who end up > > > > not choosing OpenBSD for their desktop. > > > > > > As it exists right now it reads: > > > > > > # >8-- > > > > > > This question is often asked in exactly this manner -- with no > > > explanation of what the asker means by "desktop". The only person who > > > can answer that question is you, as it depends on what your needs and > > > expectations are. > > > > > > While OpenBSD has a great reputation as a "server" operating system, > > > it can be and is used on the desktop. Many "desktop" applications are > > > available through packages and ports. As with all operating systems > > > decisions, the question is: can it do the job you desire in the way > > > you wish? You must answer this question for yourself. > > > > > > It might be worth noting that a large amount of OpenBSD development is > > > > done on laptops. > > > > > > # >8-- > > > > > > > > > I think the following paragraphs would enhance the FAQ to provide > > > the person new to the OpenBSD focus a heads up on some of the > > > difficulties. > > > > > > # >8-- > > > However, it is also worth noting that some desktop needs and uses are > > > incompatible with the focus of OBSD. There are currently no video > cards > > > that provide full specs to create open drivers for all hardware > > > function, most notably 3D acceleration. While more than adequate for > > > most uses of the X-Window system, performance while watching movies, > > > playing games, or graphic design, may be suboptimal or not possible > > > depending on your hardware and expectations. The use of binary "blob" > > > drivers would introduce the potential for unknown security breaches > and > > > is not going to be supported on OpenBSD. The work is ongoing in the > > > larger open-source community to both create open-source drivers that > can > > > access the full hardware potential of the video cards that are > > > available, and there is some work to create new video cards that will > be > > > fully open and high performance. It just doesn't exist yet. > > > > > > Similarly, flash plug-ins in browsers cause untested code to run on > the > > > computer and introduce the potential for unknown security breaches, > and > > > are therefore not supported, other than as it already exists for the > Opera > > > browser. > > > > > > It depends therefor on what is meant by "desktop". System > > > administrators will likely be thrilled with OpenBSD on their desktop. > > > However, a home user wanting an entertainment centre, a movie editor, > a > > > graphic designer, or a user requiring a multi-headed Computer Aided > > > Drafting and Design system may find the trade-offs made for security > are > > > too steep to use OpenBSD as their operating system on such computers > and > > > may choose to use a less secure operating system. > > > > > > > > > # >8-- > > > > > > Does this seem like a fair addition? > > > > > > Doug.
