On Sun, Oct 08, 2006 at 02:22:35PM +0200, Ingo Schwarze wrote: > Theo de Raadt wrote on Sat, Oct 07, 2006 at 02:55:22PM -0600: > > Adriaan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> See Jim Gettys defense at > >> http://www.gettysfamily.org/wordpress/?p=27 > [...] > > You can't say anything bad about the children, can you? > > Just as your rhetorical question suggests, indeed you can. > I still hoped OLPC might at least focus on an appropriate > auditorium. For example, here in Germany we do have millions > of (relatively!!) disadvantaged children who might profit from > free laptops (though i suspect the same money spent on teacher > salaries to have more basic language training or even spent on > better public toothcare might help them better). But the > following paragraph by Jim Gettys flabbergasted me: > > || Many or most children in the world do not have electric > || power, nor do they have computer networking. Without > || power being available, even if access points cost nothing, > || you have no network. So we are deploying mesh networking, > || to allow a child's laptop to forward packets for their > || friend or neighbor's laptop; each laptop becomes, in > || effect, a battery powered access point for the others. > > So those children will get laptops before their families > have electricity? Had they any choice, how many of them > would choose that way? Given the effort and money used > for the OLPC project - on what would those people like > to spend it? Or, to ask the question in a polemical way, > would they choose Marvell, and why? > > The criticism voiced by Siju and others does not only > apply to several situations in general, but it does indeed > appear to apply to this particular project. :-( > > Small wonder the project exhibits other flaws, too, > when even this central aspect has been screwed up...
Just to add some numbers, and because it's a neat tool (even if the 'export to Excel' button is evil [1]): http://jschipper.dynalias.net/~joachim/posts/20061008/hdr_report.html The source should be rather obvious. This page is on my home server, which is turned off when I feel like it (i.e. not often, but not never either), so might be unreliable. Play around on hdr.undp.org if so inclined. Joachim [1] Any reason why 'export to CSV' is not in there?