Ugh that means they are running the drive on a RAID channel.  That is a bad
idea.  Go for the 39160 option.

On Fri, May 26, 2006 at 10:29:59AM -0700, Victor wrote:
> Marco,
> Thanks very much for your response.  The tape drive does not show up on
> the BIOS messages, but before initially writing to [EMAIL PROTECTED], I was
> told by Dell that the absence of the tape drive on the messages was OK.
> I just called Dell again, and was told that it is normal for the PERC to
> not list devices on the SCSI channel in the boot messages when the other
> channel is RAID. The tech also stated that under certain circumstances
> or with certain products, running the PERC channels as RAID/SCSI would
> definitely cause issues such as OS or application non-detection / non-
> function.  He suggested that an add-in controller, such as the Adaptec
> 39160, would be the optimal approach.
> I asked the tech if I could cause the tape drive to show up on the boot
> messages if I turned off the RAID, and he cautioned me to first
> disconnect the RAID array, and to steel my nerves for the ominous boot-
> up messages that I would receive.  I might give that a try today or next
> week after Tuesday.
> The tech came across as knowledgeable and cooperative, nevertheless, it
> does seem odd to me that the tape drive would not show up on the boot
> messages.  However, the tape drive does show up on the Ctrl M PERC BIOS
> screen.
> When I started trying to resolve this, I knew that the add-in card was a
> possible solution, and I am leaning towards it more now, especially
> since the Adaptec 39160 that the tech suggested is on the OpenBSD
> supported hardware list.
> I am not committed to that approach yet, or fully convinced of the
> necessity of that solution, so I would still receive any further
> redirection, suggestions, or comments, with appreciation and great
> interest.
> -Victor
> 
> 
> At 07:31 PM 5/25/2006, you wrote:
> Does the BIOS show a message that there is a tape device hooked up?
> 
> There should be a MPT scsi card showing up that has a tape drive attached to 
> it.  If not you have some sort of cabling or hardware issue.
> 
> Victor wrote:
> Marco,
> With your question in mind, I more closely examined the BIOSs.
> The tape drive is on channel B.  I have examined the system BIOS and found 
> that
> channel B is configured as SCSI, as indicated below:
> Integrated Devices ->
>         Embedded RAID Controller..........RAID Enabled
>                 Channel A........................RAID
>                 Channel B........................SCSI
> I examined the PERC BIOS and found that channel B was set for 320M.  I changed
> that to Ultra-2, to better match the specs that I read on the tape drive.
> The tape drive is still not detected.
> Thanks for your previous reply, and I would appreciate your further 
> suggestions,
> comments, or guidance.
> -Victor
> 
> At 07:11 PM 5/24/2006, you wrote:
> There is no tape in your dmesg.  Are you sure the server is set to RAID/SCSI 
> in
> the bios?
> 
> On Wed, May 24, 2006 at 07:03:39PM -0700, Victor wrote:
> Hi!
> OpenBSD 3.8-release installation is not detecting the Dell installed
> PV100T internal tape drive connected to the onboard SCSI on my 2850
> PowerEdge rackmount server.  The 2850 is
> configured as follows:
> 2.8GHz/2MB Cache, Xeon, 800MHzFront Side Bus for PowerEdge 2850 285282 [
> 222-0123]
> 2.8GHz/2MB Cache, Xeon, 800MHzFront Side Bus, 2nd processor for PowerEdg
> e 2850 2P282 [311-5387]
> 1GB DDR2 400MHz (2X512MB) Single Ranked DIMMs 1G2D4S [311-3586]
> Riser,ROMB,PCI-X,PE2850 ROMBPCX [320-3977]
> 73GB,U320,SCSI,1IN 10K,PE2850 73G103 [341-1305]
> 73GB,U320,SCSI,1IN 10K,PE2850 73G103 [341-1305]
> MR1, ROMB RAID 1, Drives attached to PERC4ei,PE2850 MR1 [341-1354]
> Embedded RAID - PERC4 Embedded Integrated FROMB [463-7995]
> PV100T DAT72 w/onboard SCSI for PE2850 DAT72NC [341-1371]
> 1x6 Hard Drive Backplane PE2850 1X6BKPL [311-4282]
> 1.44MB Floppy Drive FD [341-1308]
> No Operating System, Microsoft NOOSM [420-4077]
> Dual On-Board NICS ONLY OBNICS [430-8991]
> 24X IDE CD-RW/DVD ROM Drive for PowerEdge Servers All OS CDRWDVD [313-26
> 92]
> Redundant Power Supply With Y-CORD and Straight Cords PE2850 RPSWY [310-
> 5461]
> 
> With OpenBSD 3.8-release installed, without X, the dmesg is:
> OpenBSD 3.8 (GENERIC.MP) #298: Sat Sep 10 15:51:54 MDT 2005
>     [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC.MP
> cpu0: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.80GHz ("GenuineIntel" 686-class) 2.80 GHz
> cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,
> PSE36,CFLUSH,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,CNXT-ID
> real mem  = 1073065984 (1047916K)
> avail mem = 972488704 (949696K)
> using 4278 buffers containing 53755904 bytes (52496K) of memory
> mainbus0 (root)
> bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+(00) BIOS, date 09/22/05, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xff
> e90
> pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xf0000/0x10000
> pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfb4b0/320 (18 entries)
> pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:31:0 ("Intel 82801EB/ER LPC" rev 0
> x00)
> pcibios0: PCI bus #11 is the last bus
> bios0: ROM list: 0xc0000/0xb000! 0xcb000/0x1000 0xcc000/0x1000 0xcd000/0
> x2200 0xec000/0x4000!
> mainbus0: Intel MP Specification (Version 1.4) (DELL     PE 016D     )
> cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
> cpu0: apic clock running at 199 MHz
> cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 6 (application processor)
> cpu1: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.80GHz ("GenuineIntel" 686-class) 2.80 GHz
> cpu1: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,
> PSE36,CFLUSH,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,CNXT-ID
> mainbus0: bus 0 is type PCI
> mainbus0: bus 1 is type PCI
> mainbus0: bus 2 is type PCI
> mainbus0: bus 3 is type PCI
> mainbus0: bus 4 is type PCI
> mainbus0: bus 5 is type PCI
> mainbus0: bus 6 is type PCI
> mainbus0: bus 7 is type PCI
> mainbus0: bus 8 is type PCI
> mainbus0: bus 9 is type PCI
> mainbus0: bus 10 is type PCI
> mainbus0: bus 11 is type PCI
> mainbus0: bus 12 is type ISA
> ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 8 pa 0xfec00000, version 20, 24 pins
> ioapic0: misconfigured as apic 0, remapped to apic 8
> ioapic1 at mainbus0: apid 9 pa 0xfec80000, version 20, 24 pins
> ioapic1: misconfigured as apic 0, remapped to apic 9
> ioapic2 at mainbus0: apid 10 pa 0xfec83000, version 20, 24 pins
> ioapic2: misconfigured as apic 0, remapped to apic 10
> ioapic3 at mainbus0: apid 11 pa 0xfec84000, version 20, 24 pins
> ioapic3: misconfigured as apic 0, remapped to apic 11
> pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios)
> pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 "Intel E7710 SMCH" rev 0x09
> ppb0 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 "Intel E7710 MCH PCIE" rev 0x09
> pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
> ppb1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 "Intel IOP331 Channel 0" rev 0x06
> pci2 at ppb1 bus 2
> ami0 at pci2 dev 14 function 0 "Dell PERC 4e/Di" rev 0x06: apic 9 int 14
>  (irq 7) Dell 16d/32b
> ami0: FW 521S, BIOS vH430, 256MB RAM
> ami0: 2 channels, 0 FC loops, 1 logical drives
> scsibus0 at ami0: 40 targets
> sd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: <AMI, Host drive #00, > SCSI2 0/direct fix
> ed
> sd0: 69880MB, 8908 cyl, 255 head, 63 sec, 512 bytes/sec, 143114240 sec t
> otal
> scsibus1 at ami0: 16 targets
> safte0 at scsibus1 targ 6 lun 0: <PE/PV, 1x6 SCSI BP, 1.0> SCSI2 3/proce
> ssor fixed
> scsibus2 at ami0: 16 targets
> ppb2 at pci1 dev 0 function 2 "Intel IOP331 Channel 1" rev 0x06
> pci3 at ppb2 bus 3
> ppb3 at pci0 dev 4 function 0 "Intel E7710 MCH PCIE" rev 0x09
> pci4 at ppb3 bus 4
> ppb4 at pci0 dev 5 function 0 "Intel E7710 MCH PCIE" rev 0x09
> pci5 at ppb4 bus 5
> ppb5 at pci5 dev 0 function 0 "Intel PCIE-PCIE" rev 0x09
> pci6 at ppb5 bus 6
> em0 at pci6 dev 7 function 0 "Intel PRO/1000MT (82541GI)" rev 0x05: apic
>  10 int 0 (irq 11), address: 00:14:22:1c:30:14
> ppb6 at pci5 dev 0 function 2 "Intel PCIE-PCIE" rev 0x09
> pci7 at ppb6 bus 7
> em1 at pci7 dev 8 function 0 "Intel PRO/1000MT (82541GI)" rev 0x05: apic
>  10 int 1 (irq 3), address: 00:14:22:1c:30:15
> ppb7 at pci0 dev 6 function 0 "Intel E7710 MCH PCIE" rev 0x09
> pci8 at ppb7 bus 8
> ppb8 at pci8 dev 0 function 0 "Intel PCIE-PCIE" rev 0x09
> pci9 at ppb8 bus 9
> ppb9 at pci8 dev 0 function 2 "Intel PCIE-PCIE" rev 0x09
> pci10 at ppb9 bus 10
> uhci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 "Intel 82801EB/ER USB" rev 0x02: apic 8
> int 16 (irq 11)
> usb0 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0
> uhub0 at usb0
> uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
> uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
> uhci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 "Intel 82801EB/ER USB" rev 0x02: apic 8
> int 19 (irq 10)
> usb1 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0
> uhub1 at usb1
> uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
> uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
> uhci2 at pci0 dev 29 function 2 "Intel 82801EB/ER USB" rev 0x02: apic 8
> int 18 (irq 7)
> usb2 at uhci2: USB revision 1.0
> uhub2 at usb2
> uhub2: Intel UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
> uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
> ehci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 7 "Intel 82801EB/ER USB" rev 0x02: apic 8
> int 23 (irq 5)
> usb3 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
> uhub3 at usb3
> uhub3: Intel EHCI root hub, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1
> uhub3: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered
> ppb10 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 "Intel 82801BA AGP" rev 0xc2
> pci11 at ppb10 bus 11
> vga1 at pci11 dev 13 function 0 "ATI Radeon VE QY" rev 0x00
> wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
> wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
> ichpcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 "Intel 82801EB/ER LPC" rev 0x02
> pciide0 at pci0 dev 31 function 1 "Intel 82801EB/ER IDE" rev 0x02: DMA,
> channel 0 configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibi
> lity
> atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0
> scsibus3 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets
> cd0 at scsibus3 targ 0 lun 0: <HL-DT-ST, CDRW/DVD GCC4244, B101> SCSI0 5
> /cdrom removable
> cd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2
> pciide0: channel 1 disabled (no drives)
> isa0 at ichpcib0
> isadma0 at isa0
> pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5
> pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot)
> pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot
> wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0
> pms0 at pckbc0 (aux slot)
> pckbc0: using irq 12 for aux slot
> wsmouse0 at pms0 mux 0
> pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61
> midi0 at pcppi0: <PC speaker>
> spkr0 at pcppi0
> sysbeep0 at pcppi0
> npx0 at isa0 port 0xf0/16: using exception 16
> pccom0 at isa0 port 0x3f8/8 irq 4: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo
> fdc0 at isa0 port 0x3f0/6 irq 6 drq 2
> fd0 at fdc0 drive 0: 1.44MB 80 cyl, 2 head, 18 sec
> biomask 0 netmask 0 ttymask 0
> pctr: user-level cycle counter enabled
> uhub4 at uhub3 port 3
> uhub4: Dell product 0xa001, rev 2.00/0.00, addr 2
> uhub4: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered, multiple transaction tran
> slators
> dkcsum: sd0 matches BIOS drive 0x80
> root on sd0a
> rootdev=0x400 rrootdev=0xd00 rawdev=0xd02
> 
> Just as a test, I booted using a 3.9 boot only CD made from cd39.iso,
> exited to shell and ran dmesg. The tape drive was not listed.
> Dell's utility successfully tested and "passed" the tape drive.
> 
> The tape drive is on Channel B, LUN 0, ID 6, and the tape drive's DIP
> switches are at default, all on "1."
> 
> I would appreciate your suggestions or comments.
> 
> -Victor 

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