Anon loli, please do everyone a favor and get off of this mailing list. No one here likes or appreciates your long winded rants.
No one cares if you're autistic. Plenty of people on this mailing list have told you to leave. I don't know why you keep trying to be friendly to everyone here, as it's clearly not working. Go find another mailing list to spam. Sincerely, Everyone on misc On Wednesday, October 30, 2024, Anon Loli <anonl...@autistici.org> wrote: > On Tue, Oct 29, 2024 at 12:26:54PM +0100, Christian Schulte wrote: > > On 10/28/24 22:53, Anon Loli wrote: > > > On Mon, Oct 28, 2024 at 05:35:47PM +0100, Christian Schulte wrote: > > >> On 10/24/24 03:01, Mike Larkin wrote: > > >>> > > >>> Every one of us who has worked in this area, at this level, has read > those > > >>> 800+ page documents. Sometimes they are many thousands of pages (eg > the latest > > >>> Intel SDM or latest ACPI spec). > > >>> > > >>> Tell us what you are doing and what you want to know and maybe we > can point > > >>> you to the right docs, but there is no short-cutting reading the > reference > > >>> manuals. > > >>> > > >> > > >> I would really like to understand why this architecture stood the test > > >> of time. Just because it boots in 8 bit CPU mode from the 70ties not > > >> even capable of beating a 6502? Just because developers were not > > >> continuously forced to throw away all knowledge and could build upon > it? > > >> Seems to be the reason. Intel tried to throw away legacy burdens and > got > > >> set straight by AMD. I am currently approaching page 4000 of > > >> documentation. Shaking heads. Unbelievable. What I am lacking so far > is > > >> a current PCI bus specification. This seems to not be available to non > > >> members who I am certainly not. Coming from a hardware background, > > >> documents like this > > >> > > >> <https://www.intel.sg/content/dam/doc/datasheet/io- > controller-hub-10-family-datasheet.pdf> > > >> > > >> clearly were a waste of time, at least when your goal is not to > produce > > >> mainboards. Well. Normally you would program devices directly. It even > > >> contains write-once-by-firmware registers. It will take some time for > me > > >> to understand the reasoning behind this. Not questioning there are no > > >> reasons for doing it that way. I am just trying to make me stop hating > > >> that architecture. I am still failing at this task but I would like to > > >> overcome this. At least it has linear address space. Oh. What a > wonder. > > >> Every 68k had this decades ago. Oh sorry. Your comments are very > helpful > > >> to me so far so thank you. Because the machine independent parts in > the > > >> kernel really are abstractions of formerly machine dependent parts, > > >> understanding the worst case of those - namely x86 and amd64 - will > help > > >> me understand those. I am still in the process of reading x86/amd64 > > >> documentation even if it make me shake my head every so often. > > >> > > >> Regards, > > >> -- > > >> Christian > > > > > > I just wrote a whole big-ass e-mail about how hardware has been shit > for > > > decades now. > > > I do not feel like rewriting all of it right now.... it was a genius > e-mail. > > > > > > I fucking hate when my e-mail client goes bananas because it's > terminal based. > > > Fuck escape sequences and stupid retarded Unix. > > > When do escape sequences actually work as intended? When? > > > > > > Anyways suckless.org rocks, and should be implied to hardware. > > > > > > Open Source is Insufficient to Solve Trust Problems in Hardware > > > https://youtube.com/watch?v=Hzb37RyagCQ > > > > > > How do you know the hardware in front of you actually conforms to the > hardware > > > design you might or might not have? > > > You can't, it's not like software, at least you can't with existing > hardware, > > > watch the video. > > > > > > Mud towers build on mud foundation are still mud and will collapse > under mud. > > > > > > This was more-less the important stuff > > > Fuck I hate re-writing emails fuck me! > > > > > > > Fuck. Ass. Genius. You maybe want to watch the Youtube Channels of Ben > > Eater [1] or James Sharman [2] for a starting point talking about > > hardware and how to build a CPU from scratch using bread boards. Fuck. > > Ass. Genius. Then start reading about what microelectronics is about or > > even get a degree in microelectronics. Fuck. Ass. Genius. > > > > [1] <https://www.youtube.com/@BenEater/playlists> > > [2] <https://www.youtube.com/@weirdboyjim/playlists> > > > > -- > > Christian > > Since I am autistic, I have trouble understanding when exactly someone is > making fun of me or what tone they are using, especially trough text. > For the sake of friendliness I shall assume that you said all of that in > good > spirit and were not condescending. > > I knew about Ben Eater for many years, I am extremely interested in > microelectronics.. I am also interested in chemistry and creating your own > transistors and stuff - silicon, etc. ... but that stuff FOR NOW is > unimportant. > Did not know about James Sharman, though. > > There was a dude whomst I forgot about; he created his own RISC-V CPU and > hardware around it - motherborad, even add-in PCI-like daughterboards for > stuff > like VGA and keyboard support if I remember correctly. > That computer was a intelligent multi-story, stacked tower - great design, > keeps things separated, cool-looking and organized. > > And if I were to create something usable, I shall write a super > ultra-simple > guide on how to do it yourself - DIY - unlike best of best manual pages > *cough* > *cough*. > So almost everyone could make such a thing at their own home, perhaps not > the > FPGA itself (which I plan on preferring), but everything around it? > > I am unsure of the complexity of working with FPGAs - software or hardware > wise. > I admit my lack of such, but not knowing has never before stopped me from > learning, and it shall not stop you. > > Like said - we have a lot of existing CPU architectures and other designs, > and > we can extract the best of the best from everything, and combine everything > into something just beautiful! > > > > > > Okay, I browsed the James Sharman's YT channel, and just by reading the > video > titles - I got extremely excited! > The moment I read "Storage (SD Card Support)...", I remembered that there > exist web-siteS that explain how you can add support to an >>FPGA<< from > storage stuff (SD, HDD, SSD), to networking, etc., which is more valuable > than > fucking gold! > > Holy shit if I don't archive their web-sites and all media they have, that > stuff cannot be allowed to stop existing!! > > > Since I extremely-extremely love problem solving - creating and debugging > hardware ought to be fun! > I cannot wait to spent 5 hours figuring out how I missed 1 resistor or > whatever > :') > > > Anyways - assuming you were serious and nice to me - fuck genius ass or > rather > geniuses fuck good ass? > > > > -- > Anon Loli > ######### > This mortal strives for omnisciency. Some tags: perfectionist, minimalist, > researcher, scientist, philosopher, developer, autist, anarchist, data > hoarder, > 99 other tags and interests. > > I am always up for conversing as long as you meet these requirements: > 1. Use PGP encryption for all data shared, > 2. Use a open source operating system, NOT Windows, NOT MacOS, > 3. Have a open mind - are ready to let go of any and all imperfect views on > anything, if they are. > Let's change this world for the better, one action at a time > ######################## > <anonl...@autistici.org> >
