Hi,

h...@mailo.com wrote:
i have tested "recent" openbsd releases, since 2022, and almost all of them are 
a bit slow with xfce/firefox etc.

i was wondering, for laptops range of 2013/16 years old, what would you 
recommmend them for a common web browsing using openbsd?

I like to run BSD and Linux on a variety of older hardware, so I have some experience here. First, OpenBSD is nice, but essentially, given "the same userland", that is the same X11, same desktop setup, same browser will be reasonably similar in performance to NetBSD or a good linux. Do not expect some "magic speed" in average user. What helps, usually is that you have a clean setup and install selectively what you need. So, usually, I have a a very clean system on NetBSD and OpenBSD, while perhaps on e.g. Debian you start with a big "gnome desktop setup" and then customized later, but removing is harder than adding. A good Devuan setup (no systemd) with basic X11, wm and firefox performs for me similarly to a NetBSD and OpenBSD system for browsing. Other differences? Hardware support. On your system you might have the luck that the OpenBSD driver for some of your chips (e.g. network) works better than others. FFS is just faster than certan journaled file system you get as default elsewhere.

Also "old".. it might be a low-end system with some crippled processor and low on ram.. or a good i5 with 8GB of RAM (top of the line back then). Key for browsing is RAM in any case. Under 3/4GB you cannot often open more than one or two tabs nowadays!

"common web browsing" can be an incredibly demanding task. Graphic and intensive website can kill current and top systems. Using chrome with 10 GitHub Tabs open and then open YouTube? Or browse some manpages, use wikipedia and duck-duck-go... that you can also on an old Centrino.

Given that... on selected systems OpenBSD works just very well. My aging HP laptop has suspend-to-ram support, wifi support... just everything out of the box. Easy to configure too!

Riccardo

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