On Nov 06 11:29:22, h...@mailo.com wrote:
> since few months im discovering openbsd ; as linux has been often recommended
> for windows's users with a very slow system, i guess that it's not that
> unadvised to use openbsd with a GUI for web browsing and little software (eg
> LO, gimp..)
the fact that linux "has been often recommended"
has nothing to do with whether openbsd will work for you.
> i have tested "recent" openbsd releases, since 2022,
> and almost all of them are a bit slow with xfce/firefox etc.
That depends largely on the machine.
If you have a specific machine in mind,
this email should include a dmesg.
> i was wondering, for laptops range of 2013/16 years old,
> what would you recommmend them for a common web browsing using openbsd?
Common web browsing using openbsd means
install the base system and then pkg_add firefox.
There are much more lightweight window managers than xfce,
such as the base cwm.
Whether that will be "slow" is anybody's guess
as we known nothing about your machine.
That being said, I happily run firefox on older Thinkpads
similar to the one below (a 2014 Thinkpad E145).
Jan
OpenBSD 7.2-current (GENERIC.MP) #911: Wed Dec 28 10:45:43 MST 2022
dera...@amd64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC.MP
real mem = 5647761408 (5386MB)
avail mem = 5459165184 (5206MB)
random: good seed from bootblocks
mpath0 at root
scsibus0 at mpath0: 256 targets
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 2.7 @ 0xbe5c4000 (47 entries)
bios0: vendor LENOVO version "HSET57WW (2.02 )" date 02/24/2014
bios0: LENOVO 20BC0000MC
acpi0 at bios0: ACPI 5.0
acpi0: sleep states S0 S3 S4 S5
acpi0: tables DSDT FACP HPET APIC MCFG SBST FPDT UEFI MSDM UEFI SSDT SSDT UEFI
SSDT SSDT SSDT SSDT SSDT
acpi0: wakeup devices GPP0(S4) GPP1(S4) GPP2(S4) GPP3(S4) GFX_(S4) XHC0(S3)
OHC1(S3) EHC2(S3) OHC3(S3) EHC3(S3) SBAZ(S4) LID_(S4)
acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 32 bits
acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318180 Hz
acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee00000: PC-AT compat
cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
cpu0: AMD E1-2500 APU with Radeon(TM) HD Graphics, 1397.40 MHz, 16-00-01
cpu0:
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT,SSE3,PCLMUL,MWAIT,SSSE3,CX16,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,MOVBE,POPCNT,AES,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,NXE,MMXX,FFXSR,PAGE1GB,RDTSCP,LONG,LAHF,CMPLEG,SVM,EAPICSP,AMCR8,ABM,SSE4A,MASSE,3DNOWP,OSVW,IBS,SKINIT,TOPEXT,DBKP,PCTRL3,ITSC,BMI1,XSAVEOPT
cpu0: 32KB 64b/line 8-way D-cache, 32KB 64b/line 2-way I-cache, 1MB 64b/line
16-way L2 cache
cpu0: smt 0, core 0, package 0
mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support, 8 var ranges, 88 fixed ranges
cpu0: apic clock running at 99MHz
cpu0: mwait min=64, max=64, IBE
cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor)
cpu1: AMD E1-2500 APU with Radeon(TM) HD Graphics, 1397.40 MHz, 16-00-01
cpu1:
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT,SSE3,PCLMUL,MWAIT,SSSE3,CX16,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,MOVBE,POPCNT,AES,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,NXE,MMXX,FFXSR,PAGE1GB,RDTSCP,LONG,LAHF,CMPLEG,SVM,EAPICSP,AMCR8,ABM,SSE4A,MASSE,3DNOWP,OSVW,IBS,SKINIT,TOPEXT,DBKP,PCTRL3,ITSC,BMI1,XSAVEOPT
cpu1: 32KB 64b/line 8-way D-cache, 32KB 64b/line 2-way I-cache, 1MB 64b/line
16-way L2 cache
cpu1: smt 0, core 1, package 0
ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 4 pa 0xfec00000, version 21, 24 pins, remapped
ioapic1 at mainbus0: apid 5 pa 0xfec01000, version 21, 32 pins, remapped
acpimcfg0 at acpi0
acpimcfg0: addr 0xf8000000, bus 0-63
acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0)
acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 1 (GPP0)
acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 3 (GPP1)
acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus -1 (GPP2)
acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus 4 (GPP3)
acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus -1 (GFX_)
acpiec0 at acpi0
acpibtn0 at acpi0: PWRB
acpipci0 at acpi0 PCI0: 0x00000010 0x00000011 0x00000000
acpicmos0 at acpi0
"SMB0001" at acpi0 not configured
acpithinkpad0 at acpi0: version 1.0
acpiac0 at acpi0: AC unit offline
acpibat0 at acpi0: BAT1 model "45N1174" serial 898 type LION oem "SANYO"
acpibtn1 at acpi0: LID_
"PNP0C14" at acpi0 not configured
"PNP0C14" at acpi0 not configured
"ASD0001" at acpi0 not configured
acpicpu0 at acpi0: C2(0@400 io@0x841), C1(@1 halt!), PSS
acpicpu1 at acpi0: C2(0@400 io@0x841), C1(@1 halt!), PSS
acpitz0 at acpi0: critical temperature is 100 degC
acpivideo0 at acpi0: VGA_
acpivout0 at acpivideo0: LCD_
cpu0: 1397 MHz: speeds: 1400 1200 1000 900 800 MHz
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0
0:1:0: rom address conflict 0xfffe0000/0x20000
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 "AMD 16h Host" rev 0x00
radeondrm0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 "ATI Kabini" rev 0x00
drm0 at radeondrm0
radeondrm0: msi
azalia0 at pci0 dev 1 function 1 "ATI Radeon HD Audio" rev 0x00: msi
azalia0: no supported codecs
pchb1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 vendor "AMD", unknown product 0x1538 rev 0x00
ppb0 at pci0 dev 2 function 2 "AMD 16h PCIE" rev 0x00: msi
pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
rtwn0 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 "Realtek 8188CE" rev 0x01: msi
rtwn0: MAC/BB RTL8188CE, RF 6052 1T1R, address 20:16:d8:41:c4:fd
ppb1 at pci0 dev 2 function 3 "AMD 16h PCIE" rev 0x00: msi
pci2 at ppb1 bus 3
re0 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 "Realtek 8168" rev 0x07: RTL8168E/8111E-VL
(0x2c80), msi, address c4:54:44:3d:8d:b5
rgephy0 at re0 phy 7: RTL8169S/8110S/8211 PHY, rev. 5
ppb2 at pci0 dev 2 function 5 "AMD 16h PCIE" rev 0x00: msi
pci3 at ppb2 bus 4
rtsx0 at pci3 dev 0 function 0 "Realtek RTS5229 Card Reader" rev 0x01: msi
sdmmc0 at rtsx0: 4-bit, dma
xhci0 at pci0 dev 16 function 0 "AMD Bolton xHCI" rev 0x01: msi, xHCI 1.0
usb0 at xhci0: USB revision 3.0
uhub0 at usb0 configuration 1 interface 0 "AMD xHCI root hub" rev 3.00/1.00
addr 1
ahci0 at pci0 dev 17 function 0 "AMD Hudson-2 SATA" rev 0x00: msi, AHCI 1.3
ahci0: port 0: 6.0Gb/s
scsibus1 at ahci0: 32 targets
sd0 at scsibus1 targ 0 lun 0: <ATA, TOSHIBA MQ02ABF0, HDF0> naa.5000039801d88e8a
sd0: 476940MB, 512 bytes/sector, 976773168 sectors, thin
ohci0 at pci0 dev 18 function 0 "AMD Hudson-2 USB" rev 0x39: apic 4 int 18,
version 1.0, legacy support
ehci0 at pci0 dev 18 function 2 "AMD Hudson-2 USB2" rev 0x39: apic 4 int 17
usb1 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
uhub1 at usb1 configuration 1 interface 0 "AMD EHCI root hub" rev 2.00/1.00
addr 1
ohci1 at pci0 dev 19 function 0 "AMD Hudson-2 USB" rev 0x39: apic 4 int 18,
version 1.0, legacy support
ehci1 at pci0 dev 19 function 2 "AMD Hudson-2 USB2" rev 0x39: apic 4 int 17
usb2 at ehci1: USB revision 2.0
uhub2 at usb2 configuration 1 interface 0 "AMD EHCI root hub" rev 2.00/1.00
addr 1
piixpm0 at pci0 dev 20 function 0 "AMD Hudson-2 SMBus" rev 0x3a: SMBus disabled
azalia1 at pci0 dev 20 function 2 "AMD Hudson-2 HD Audio" rev 0x02: apic 4 int
16
azalia1: codecs: Realtek ALC269
audio0 at azalia1
pcib0 at pci0 dev 20 function 3 "AMD Hudson-2 LPC" rev 0x11
pchb2 at pci0 dev 24 function 0 "AMD 16h Link Cfg" rev 0x00
pchb3 at pci0 dev 24 function 1 "AMD 16h Address Map" rev 0x00
pchb4 at pci0 dev 24 function 2 "AMD 16h DRAM Cfg" rev 0x00
km0 at pci0 dev 24 function 3 "AMD 16h Misc Cfg" rev 0x00
pchb5 at pci0 dev 24 function 4 "AMD 16h CPU Power" rev 0x00
pchb6 at pci0 dev 24 function 5 vendor "AMD", unknown product 0x1535 rev 0x00
usb3 at ohci0: USB revision 1.0
uhub3 at usb3 configuration 1 interface 0 "AMD OHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00
addr 1
usb4 at ohci1: USB revision 1.0
uhub4 at usb4 configuration 1 interface 0 "AMD OHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00
addr 1
isa0 at pcib0
isadma0 at isa0
pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5 irq 1 irq 12
pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot)
wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard
pms0 at pckbc0 (aux slot)
wsmouse0 at pms0 mux 0
wsmouse1 at pms0 mux 0
pms0: Synaptics clickpad, firmware 8.1, 0x1e2b1 0x940300 0x21f240 0xd002a3
0x126c00
pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61
spkr0 at pcppi0
uvideo0 at uhub2 port 1 configuration 1 interface 0 "Vimicro corp. Integrated
Camera" rev 2.00/0.05 addr 2
video0 at uvideo0
vscsi0 at root
scsibus2 at vscsi0: 256 targets
softraid0 at root
scsibus3 at softraid0: 256 targets
root on sd0a (f53fc7e0472a681a.a) swap on sd0b dump on sd0b
radeondrm0: KABINI
radeondrm0: 1366x768, 32bpp
wsdisplay0 at radeondrm0 mux 1: console (std, vt100 emulation), using wskbd0
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (std, vt100 emulation)
